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From: Peter Larsen on 7 Jun 2008 06:01 Hi group, I don't get to read and post here as often as I really want to, there is also life outside the screen, but I do want to share this. The dread white brethren nearly killed my brother, here is how: They found out that he also is a t2, and seemingly not in the early stages. In as much as he has been a bp and heart patient for some time the surprise is - or perhaps not - that they in their incompetence never checked that previously, he has probably been a t2 for 10 years. On making the surprise discovery they prescribed a lot of metformin, but forgot to tell him to phase it in slowly. He's a nice guy, so when a doc says "do" then he does, and expected the diarrea to fade in a few days. It didn't and of course he also did not keep his other medication in. So he went to his gp, really really REALLY sick. GP gave him another prescription and sent him home. 3 hours later he collapsed at home, wife got ambulance, BP 80 over 40 at admission, and acute potassium poisoning. Also he probably had one infarct at home, he got another at the first hospital, had temporary kidney failure, and they caused blood poisoning with the catheter for fluids. He was then sent to a specialist heart hospital, the local one are just generally incompetent, got a third infarct there and was told that options under consideration included the transplant queue. He did get home yesterday, a lot better and in the queue for a pacemaker, just in case, and expected to get on well with medication only. But please please please someone make the white brethren understand that any BP patient is a probable t2 because the t2 is a highly probable mechanism for bp problems. People shouldn't get sick enough to need drastric medication with the disease and the remedies so well documented as they are. Thanks to you and to Philip Jones I was so fortunate as to know how to start up on metformin - fortunate in as much as my gp was as incompetent in that respect as my brothers, but their capacity for medical incompetence grieves me badly. Of course, if our parents had not hidden the fact that our father likewise had a late detected t2, then we both at least had been aware of the risk, instead of thinking - as I surely did - that as neither parent had had it the risk was to be considered small. Kind regards Peter Larsen
From: Alan S on 7 Jun 2008 07:02 On Sat, 7 Jun 2008 11:01:49 +0100, "Peter Larsen" <digilyd(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >Hi group, > >I don't get to read and post here as often as I really want to, there is >also life outside the screen, but I do want to share this. The dread white >brethren nearly killed my brother, here is how: They found out that he also >is a t2, and seemingly not in the early stages. In as much as he has been a >bp and heart patient for some time the surprise is - or perhaps not - that >they in their incompetence never checked that previously, he has probably >been a t2 for 10 years. > >On making the surprise discovery they prescribed a lot of metformin, but >forgot to tell him to phase it in slowly. He's a nice guy, so when a doc >says "do" then he does, and expected the diarrea to fade in a few days. It >didn't and of course he also did not keep his other medication in. > >So he went to his gp, really really REALLY sick. GP gave him another >prescription and sent him home. 3 hours later he collapsed at home, wife got >ambulance, BP 80 over 40 at admission, and acute potassium poisoning. Also >he probably had one infarct at home, he got another at the first hospital, >had temporary kidney failure, and they caused blood poisoning with the >catheter for fluids. He was then sent to a specialist heart hospital, the >local one are just generally incompetent, got a third infarct there and was >told that options under consideration included the transplant queue. > >He did get home yesterday, a lot better and in the queue for a pacemaker, >just in case, and expected to get on well with medication only. > >But please please please someone make the white brethren understand that any >BP patient is a probable t2 because the t2 is a highly probable mechanism >for bp problems. People shouldn't get sick enough to need drastric >medication with the disease and the remedies so well documented as they are. > >Thanks to you and to Philip Jones I was so fortunate as to know how to start >up on metformin - fortunate in as much as my gp was as incompetent in that >respect as my brothers, but their capacity for medical incompetence grieves >me badly. Of course, if our parents had not hidden the fact that our father >likewise had a late detected t2, then we both at least had been aware of the >risk, instead of thinking - as I surely did - that as neither parent had had >it the risk was to be considered small. > > > Kind regards > > Peter Larsen > Sincerely wishing the best for your brother. I'm sure you'll be able to help him get through. Such a sad story; I can't comment more than that on your system; we certainly have our share of incompetence and penny-pinching here too. Let us know how he fares. PS. I nearly didn't read after the title. I thought it was one of those cross-posted diatribes from alt.revisionism; KKK and all that. Is "white brethren" a commonly used term for medical professionals in the UK? Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. -- d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter. http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/alan_s/ http://loraltravel.blogspot.com Latest: Indira Gandhi Airport, Delhi
From: Nicky on 7 Jun 2008 07:53 On Sat, 7 Jun 2008 11:01:49 +0100, "Peter Larsen" <digilyd(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >He did get home yesterday, a lot better and in the queue for a pacemaker, >just in case, and expected to get on well with medication only. EEEK! Glad he's feeling better, what an awful experience! Hope it's given him a bit of scepticism on the "doctor knows best" front, and that the BP, lipids, etc improve as he gets bg control. Have you given him the test,test,test link? Nicky. T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid D&E, 100ug thyroxine Last A1c 5.4% BMI 25
From: Trinkwasser on 7 Jun 2008 12:39
On Sat, 07 Jun 2008 12:53:50 +0100, Nicky <ukc802466929(a)btconnect.com> wrote: >On Sat, 7 Jun 2008 11:01:49 +0100, "Peter Larsen" ><digilyd(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >>He did get home yesterday, a lot better and in the queue for a pacemaker, >>just in case, and expected to get on well with medication only. > >EEEK! Glad he's feeling better, what an awful experience! Hope it's >given him a bit of scepticism on the "doctor knows best" front, and >that the BP, lipids, etc improve as he gets bg control. Have you given >him the test,test,test link? Well what a selfish person he is, deliberately not dying and wasting all those precious resources which could otherwise be wisely spent employing the children of politicians. If you made it up people would think you were lying . . . |