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From: tdonline on
I have read on boards where some people have reflux but their LES
pressure measured out 'normal'. Can this be? Does this mean the LES
is fine most of the time other than inappropriate relaxation? Does it
mean their LES is only mildly demaged? Is this medically possible? And
if so, what would be the reasons?

Do people with reflux and normal LES pressure recover from GERD/LPR and
lead life without strict management issues? It's really depressing to
think I'll be sleeping on a slanted bed the rest of my life...

From: jmc on
Suddenly, without warning, tdonline exclaimed (28-Oct-05 8:16 PM):
> I have read on boards where some people have reflux but their LES
> pressure measured out 'normal'. Can this be? Does this mean the LES
> is fine most of the time other than inappropriate relaxation? Does it
> mean their LES is only mildly demaged? Is this medically possible? And
> if so, what would be the reasons?
>
> Do people with reflux and normal LES pressure recover from GERD/LPR and
> lead life without strict management issues? It's really depressing to
> think I'll be sleeping on a slanted bed the rest of my life...
>

I don't know, but I have symptoms of what my doctor colorfully calls a
"floppy LES" but when I did the barium swallow, the test was normal.

I absolutely can't sleep on a slanted bed, but aside from the recent
antibiotic issues, the med I've been taking has controlled it well.

Hopefully someeone else can answer your last question, as unfortunately
I cannot. I'm afraid to come off the meds, as my reflux manifests as
severe chest pain when untreated, and since I have heart issues as well,
it'd be nice to know that the chest pain is "simply" reflux, and not
something worse...

jmc
From: Howard McCollister on

"tdonline" <trinhd90(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1130527010.738918.230940(a)g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>I have read on boards where some people have reflux but their LES
> pressure measured out 'normal'. Can this be? Does this mean the LES
> is fine most of the time other than inappropriate relaxation? Does it
> mean their LES is only mildly demaged? Is this medically possible? And
> if so, what would be the reasons?
>
> Do people with reflux and normal LES pressure recover from GERD/LPR and
> lead life without strict management issues? It's really depressing to
> think I'll be sleeping on a slanted bed the rest of my life...
>

Yes, pressure measurements of the LES can show its resting pressure to be
normal, yet the patient can have transient inappropriate LES relaxation and
severe GERD.

The only people who commonly recover from GERD (other than those who have
anti-reflux surgery) are those in whom obesity is a major contributing
factor. Weight loss in that case can eliminate GERD. Otherwise, the other
management issues you mention are pretty much life-long requirements.

HMc



From: Howard McCollister on

"jmc" <NOnewsgroupsSPAM(a)NOjodiBODY.HOMEus> wrote in message
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>
> I don't know, but I have symptoms of what my doctor colorfully calls a
> "floppy LES" but when I did the barium swallow, the test was normal.
>


Barium swallow is a completely pointless test for GERD. The information it
returns is, at best, incomplete, and at worst misleading. Very high false
negative rate. A waste of time - ordered by doctors who don't understand the
pathophysiology of GERD.

The only way to diagnose GERD is with ambulatory pH testing. The only way to
diagnose the *complications* of GERD is by EGD. The only way to diagnose the
motility function of the esophagus (including the "floppiness" of the LES)
is by direct esophageal manometry.

HMc



From: jmc on
Suddenly, without warning, Howard McCollister exclaimed (07-Nov-05 4:05 PM):
> "jmc" <NOnewsgroupsSPAM(a)NOjodiBODY.HOMEus> wrote in message
> news:3sfkt8Fo8dpjU1(a)individual.net...
>
>>I don't know, but I have symptoms of what my doctor colorfully calls a
>>"floppy LES" but when I did the barium swallow, the test was normal.
>>
>
>
>
> Barium swallow is a completely pointless test for GERD. The information it
> returns is, at best, incomplete, and at worst misleading. Very high false
> negative rate. A waste of time - ordered by doctors who don't understand the
> pathophysiology of GERD.
>
> The only way to diagnose GERD is with ambulatory pH testing. The only way to
> diagnose the *complications* of GERD is by EGD. The only way to diagnose the
> motility function of the esophagus (including the "floppiness" of the LES)
> is by direct esophageal manometry.
>
> HMc
>
>
>
Howard:

Thanks for the info. I'm stuck with the UK health system for now, but
am planning on getting everything reevaluated upon my return to the US.

jmc
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