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From: cnc2489 on 10 Dec 2005 22:00
My 15 year old son was just diagnosed with Tourettes about a month and
a half ago and i have to say im confused with this diagnosis.A quick
history of my son .My son has been diagnosed with Adhd OCD and ODD
along with dislexia at the age of 7. he has had many behavioral issues
in school and home .He has been on every medication imaginable to help
with concentration and then for the behavior .NOTHING has worked.
About 5 months ago they diagnosed my son with having bipolar.He was put
on medication for that ..they tried many differant cocktails..AGAIN
NOTHING worked.. My son went to stay with his uncle for a month and
decided to take it upon himself to stop taking his medication. During
that time he got violantly ill and had an episode of violant rage.that
night he came home and I noticed he had been jerking his neck to the
side and was opening his mouth real wide he did this repeatedly. Over
the next few days I observed these "tics" and they seem to change. or
he added a new one.when he began rolling his eyes I decided it was time
to get him in to be seen by a dr. I saw 4 differant dr's. he was
finnaly referred to a neurologist . While at the nuerologist they took
a brief history and observed his "tic's" one nuerologist immediatly
diagnosed him with tourettes then had another nuerologist come in who
also aked for a brief history and also observed his "tic's" and he too
diagnosed him with having tourettes..My confusion with this diagnosis
is that My understanding of tourettes is that you must exhibit both a
vocal and a motor tic and that they must be present for at lest a
year.which my son has not had any vocal tics that he or we are aware of
and these tics are new to us and him... Also that tourettes is
hereditary..After much research I have found that no one on either
side of our families have had tourettes.. My question is does any one
know the differance between tardive dyskinisia and Tourettes ? Could
my son have been misdiagnosed? Or does this sound like Tourettes? Any
help or comments on this is appreciated. Thanks

From: Sandy L on 11 Dec 2005 08:14
"cnc2489" <crmichaud(a)entouch.net> wrote in message
news:1134270006.546892.149880(a)g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> My 15 year old son was just diagnosed with Tourettes about a month and
> a half ago and i have to say im confused with this diagnosis.A quick
> history of my son .My son has been diagnosed with Adhd OCD and ODD
> along with dislexia at the age of 7. he has had many behavioral issues
> in school and home .He has been on every medication imaginable to help
> with concentration and then for the behavior .NOTHING has worked.
> About 5 months ago they diagnosed my son with having bipolar.He was put
> on medication for that ..they tried many differant cocktails..AGAIN
> NOTHING worked.. My son went to stay with his uncle for a month and
> decided to take it upon himself to stop taking his medication. During
> that time he got violantly ill and had an episode of violant rage.that
> night he came home and I noticed he had been jerking his neck to the
> side and was opening his mouth real wide he did this repeatedly. Over
> the next few days I observed these "tics" and they seem to change. or
> he added a new one.when he began rolling his eyes I decided it was time
> to get him in to be seen by a dr. I saw 4 differant dr's. he was
> finnaly referred to a neurologist . While at the nuerologist they took
> a brief history and observed his "tic's" one nuerologist immediatly
> diagnosed him with tourettes then had another nuerologist come in who
> also aked for a brief history and also observed his "tic's" and he too
> diagnosed him with having tourettes..My confusion with this diagnosis
> is that My understanding of tourettes is that you must exhibit both a
> vocal and a motor tic and that they must be present for at lest a
> year.which my son has not had any vocal tics that he or we are aware of
> and these tics are new to us and him... Also that tourettes is
> hereditary..After much research I have found that no one on either
> side of our families have had tourettes.. My question is does any one
> know the differance between tardive dyskinisia and Tourettes ? Could
> my son have been misdiagnosed? Or does this sound like Tourettes? Any
> help or comments on this is appreciated. Thanks

You are correct in thinking that the symptoms must persist for a while
before TS can be definitively diagnosed. So what does a patient who does
have Tourette's have during the first X months of the syndrome? Clearly, it
is still TS but some people exhibit tics for other reasons and if one makes
the diagnosis during that first period, there is simply a higher risk of
being wrong. The same situation prevails in some other conditions. One of
the criteria for migraine, for example, is at least five headaches lasting
between four and 72 hours during one's lifetime. If they meet the remainder
of the criteria, the first five are migraine too, but one just can't be sure
until the sixth

Some experts think that TS, OCD, ADD, and something called oppositional
defiant disorder tend to have at least some sommon roots, and run together
more often than would be expected by chance. There is a hereditary
component to all of them, but the origin may not be immediately obvious. I
suspect my TS came through my mother, but I cannot recall anything that I
would characterize a tic in her.


From: Jon on 11 Dec 2005 17:51
You would be suprised how subtle vocal tics can be. Our son had vocal tics
like throat clearing--we thought he had sinus trouble. I suggest you listen
for any repeated sounds (even stuttering a word more than 3 times
{wo-wo-wood versus wo-wo-wo-wood, first is stutter, second is a tic} is a
tic!) Also, the range of diagnoses you have are consistently in the spectrum
of TS. While you may not have picked up the vocal tics because ou are used
to them, a new observer might pick them up immediately.

Jon


"cnc2489" <crmichaud(a)entouch.net> wrote in message
news:1134270006.546892.149880(a)g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> My 15 year old son was just diagnosed with Tourettes about a month and
> a half ago and i have to say im confused with this diagnosis.A quick
> history of my son .My son has been diagnosed with Adhd OCD and ODD
> along with dislexia at the age of 7. he has had many behavioral issues
> in school and home .He has been on every medication imaginable to help
> with concentration and then for the behavior .NOTHING has worked.
> About 5 months ago they diagnosed my son with having bipolar.He was put
> on medication for that ..they tried many differant cocktails..AGAIN
> NOTHING worked.. My son went to stay with his uncle for a month and
> decided to take it upon himself to stop taking his medication. During
> that time he got violantly ill and had an episode of violant rage.that
> night he came home and I noticed he had been jerking his neck to the
> side and was opening his mouth real wide he did this repeatedly. Over
> the next few days I observed these "tics" and they seem to change. or
> he added a new one.when he began rolling his eyes I decided it was time
> to get him in to be seen by a dr. I saw 4 differant dr's. he was
> finnaly referred to a neurologist . While at the nuerologist they took
> a brief history and observed his "tic's" one nuerologist immediatly
> diagnosed him with tourettes then had another nuerologist come in who
> also aked for a brief history and also observed his "tic's" and he too
> diagnosed him with having tourettes..My confusion with this diagnosis
> is that My understanding of tourettes is that you must exhibit both a
> vocal and a motor tic and that they must be present for at lest a
> year.which my son has not had any vocal tics that he or we are aware of
> and these tics are new to us and him... Also that tourettes is
> hereditary..After much research I have found that no one on either
> side of our families have had tourettes.. My question is does any one
> know the differance between tardive dyskinisia and Tourettes ? Could
> my son have been misdiagnosed? Or does this sound like Tourettes? Any
> help or comments on this is appreciated. Thanks
>


From: Jo on 11 Dec 2005 18:34

"Jon" <joncox(a)cox.net> wrote in message news:Y22nf.3277$du.387(a)fed1read02...
> You would be suprised how subtle vocal tics can be. Our son had vocal
> tics like throat clearing--we thought he had sinus trouble.


I suggest you listen
> for any repeated sounds (even stuttering a word more than 3 times
> {wo-wo-wood versus wo-wo-wo-wood, first is stutter, second is a tic}
is a > tic!)


Jon, who told you this? I don't believe that's completely true.
"wo-wo-wo-wood" could certainly be a stutter, and "wo-wo-wood" could be a
tic! Where did you get that distinction? Just curious,

Jo





Also, the range of diagnoses you have are consistently in the spectrum
> of TS. While you may not have picked up the vocal tics because ou are
> used to them, a new observer might pick them up immediately.
>
> Jon
>
>
> "cnc2489" <crmichaud(a)entouch.net> wrote in message
> news:1134270006.546892.149880(a)g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> My 15 year old son was just diagnosed with Tourettes about a month and
>> a half ago and i have to say im confused with this diagnosis.A quick
>> history of my son .My son has been diagnosed with Adhd OCD and ODD
>> along with dislexia at the age of 7. he has had many behavioral issues
>> in school and home .He has been on every medication imaginable to help
>> with concentration and then for the behavior .NOTHING has worked.
>> About 5 months ago they diagnosed my son with having bipolar.He was put
>> on medication for that ..they tried many differant cocktails..AGAIN
>> NOTHING worked.. My son went to stay with his uncle for a month and
>> decided to take it upon himself to stop taking his medication. During
>> that time he got violantly ill and had an episode of violant rage.that
>> night he came home and I noticed he had been jerking his neck to the
>> side and was opening his mouth real wide he did this repeatedly. Over
>> the next few days I observed these "tics" and they seem to change. or
>> he added a new one.when he began rolling his eyes I decided it was time
>> to get him in to be seen by a dr. I saw 4 differant dr's. he was
>> finnaly referred to a neurologist . While at the nuerologist they took
>> a brief history and observed his "tic's" one nuerologist immediatly
>> diagnosed him with tourettes then had another nuerologist come in who
>> also aked for a brief history and also observed his "tic's" and he too
>> diagnosed him with having tourettes..My confusion with this diagnosis
>> is that My understanding of tourettes is that you must exhibit both a
>> vocal and a motor tic and that they must be present for at lest a
>> year.which my son has not had any vocal tics that he or we are aware of
>> and these tics are new to us and him... Also that tourettes is
>> hereditary..After much research I have found that no one on either
>> side of our families have had tourettes.. My question is does any one
>> know the differance between tardive dyskinisia and Tourettes ? Could
>> my son have been misdiagnosed? Or does this sound like Tourettes? Any
>> help or comments on this is appreciated. Thanks
>>
>
>


From: Jon on 12 Dec 2005 15:28
I may be wrong on this, as I cannot find the reference, but it is vividly in
my memory.

Jon

"Jo" <jocohen(a)comcast.net> wrote in message
news:68WdnbLsTsLoKgHeRVn-jw(a)comcast.com...
>
> "Jon" <joncox(a)cox.net> wrote in message
> news:Y22nf.3277$du.387(a)fed1read02...
>> You would be suprised how subtle vocal tics can be. Our son had vocal
>> tics like throat clearing--we thought he had sinus trouble.
>
>
> I suggest you listen
>> for any repeated sounds (even stuttering a word more than 3 times
>> {wo-wo-wood versus wo-wo-wo-wood, first is stutter, second is a tic}
> is a > tic!)
>
>
> Jon, who told you this? I don't believe that's completely true.
> "wo-wo-wo-wood" could certainly be a stutter, and "wo-wo-wood" could be a
> tic! Where did you get that distinction? Just curious,
>
> Jo
>
>
>
>
>
> Also, the range of diagnoses you have are consistently in the spectrum
>> of TS. While you may not have picked up the vocal tics because ou are
>> used to them, a new observer might pick them up immediately.
>>
>> Jon
>>
>>
>> "cnc2489" <crmichaud(a)entouch.net> wrote in message
>> news:1134270006.546892.149880(a)g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>>> My 15 year old son was just diagnosed with Tourettes about a month and
>>> a half ago and i have to say im confused with this diagnosis.A quick
>>> history of my son .My son has been diagnosed with Adhd OCD and ODD
>>> along with dislexia at the age of 7. he has had many behavioral issues
>>> in school and home .He has been on every medication imaginable to help
>>> with concentration and then for the behavior .NOTHING has worked.
>>> About 5 months ago they diagnosed my son with having bipolar.He was put
>>> on medication for that ..they tried many differant cocktails..AGAIN
>>> NOTHING worked.. My son went to stay with his uncle for a month and
>>> decided to take it upon himself to stop taking his medication. During
>>> that time he got violantly ill and had an episode of violant rage.that
>>> night he came home and I noticed he had been jerking his neck to the
>>> side and was opening his mouth real wide he did this repeatedly. Over
>>> the next few days I observed these "tics" and they seem to change. or
>>> he added a new one.when he began rolling his eyes I decided it was time
>>> to get him in to be seen by a dr. I saw 4 differant dr's. he was
>>> finnaly referred to a neurologist . While at the nuerologist they took
>>> a brief history and observed his "tic's" one nuerologist immediatly
>>> diagnosed him with tourettes then had another nuerologist come in who
>>> also aked for a brief history and also observed his "tic's" and he too
>>> diagnosed him with having tourettes..My confusion with this diagnosis
>>> is that My understanding of tourettes is that you must exhibit both a
>>> vocal and a motor tic and that they must be present for at lest a
>>> year.which my son has not had any vocal tics that he or we are aware of
>>> and these tics are new to us and him... Also that tourettes is
>>> hereditary..After much research I have found that no one on either
>>> side of our families have had tourettes.. My question is does any one
>>> know the differance between tardive dyskinisia and Tourettes ? Could
>>> my son have been misdiagnosed? Or does this sound like Tourettes? Any
>>> help or comments on this is appreciated. Thanks
>>>
>>
>>
>
>


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