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From: Loretta Eisenberg on 13 Oct 2008 15:04
I am very confused today. I woke this morning with a bg of 87, perfect.
For breakfast I had two waffles with low carb peanut butter and sugar
free jelly. At two hours I was 97. Before lunch I tested and I was
119. that was two hours after the 97. what is going on. Since I am on
byetta breakfast is not a problem meal for me. and neither is dinner,
It is lunch I have to watch.

no wonder I am scatching my head

Loretta

From: Peppermint Patootie on 13 Oct 2008 16:08
In article <6496-48F39BCF-1184(a)storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net>,
sassybklynlady(a)webtv.net (Loretta Eisenberg) wrote:

> I am very confused today. I woke this morning with a bg of 87, perfect.
> For breakfast I had two waffles with low carb peanut butter and sugar
> free jelly. At two hours I was 97. Before lunch I tested and I was
> 119. that was two hours after the 97. what is going on. Since I am on
> byetta breakfast is not a problem meal for me. and neither is dinner,
> It is lunch I have to watch.
>
> no wonder I am scatching my head
>
> Loretta

Remember that Byetta delays any remaining spike, due to the fact that it
delays stomach emptying. My endo wants me to *start* testing at 2 hours
post prandial. I doubt I could get away with waffles even with Byetta.
I wonder if you spiked at 3 hours pp and were just coming down from the
spike to hit the 119 at 4 hours pp.

PP, T2, Byetta
From: Loretta Eisenberg on 13 Oct 2008 17:10
I believe Peppermint that the spike was 119 at three hours or maybe
four. I am thinking another theory, that perhaps, after the 94 that I
was going low and then had dp.

does dawn phenomenon have to just be when a person wakes up.

Loretta

From: Robert Miles on 13 Oct 2008 18:44

"Loretta Eisenberg" <sassybklynlady(a)webtv.net> wrote in message
news:29980-48F3B94E-1353(a)storefull-3231.bay.webtv.net...
>I believe Peppermint that the spike was 119 at three hours or maybe
> four. I am thinking another theory, that perhaps, after the 94 that I
> was going low and then had dp.
>
> does dawn phenomenon have to just be when a person wakes up.
>
> Loretta
>
For me, I get about the same reading from when I wake up until
just before breakfast.

Such a spike at other times is not known as dawn phenomemon;
it is known as a liver dump.

http://www.diabetic-talk.org/dp.htm


From: Susan on 13 Oct 2008 19:41
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Loretta Eisenberg wrote:
> I believe Peppermint that the spike was 119 at three hours or maybe
> four. I am thinking another theory, that perhaps, after the 94 that I
> was going low and then had dp.
>
> does dawn phenomenon have to just be when a person wakes up.
>


Yes, Loretta, that's why they call it that. OTOH, if you have
abnormally high episodic cortisol spikes, those can raise your bg, too.
Cortisol is the hormone that causes DP.

Or it could be what Priscilla said.

Susan
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