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From: Derek on 21 Aug 2008 03:31 On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:46:52 -0700 (PDT), Rupert <rupertmccallum(a)yahoo.com> wrote: [..] >I said to David Harrison that there exist some farmed animals such >that it would be a better outcome for them to live the life they do >rather than for them not to live at all and for no animals to live in >their place. No, that isn't what you said to Harrison, you unethical liar. You said, "I accept that some nonhuman animals who are raised for food on farms have lives which are such that it is better that they live that life than that they not live at all" Rupert 24 July 2008 http://tinyurl.com/5m8t28 As we can plainly see, you didn't mention anything about "a better outcome", or anything about "no animals to live in their place". What you wrote is perfectly clear, and doesn't include those little extra additions you've made here. They weren't implied, either. You added them after being caught out. Like I've been telling you, rupie, you're an unethical liar and you don't argue in good faith. You may just as well have written, "I accept that some nonhuman animals who are raised for [vivisection] on farms have lives which are such that it is better that they live that life than that they not live at all" Now would be a good time to concede that you do support vivisection on the grounds "that it is better that they live that life than that they not live at all", so do it.
From: Derek on 22 Aug 2008 06:55 On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 20:42:57 -0700 (PDT), Rupert <rupertmccallum(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >On Aug 21, 12:31�am, Derek <usenet.em...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:46:52 -0700 (PDT), Rupert <rupertmccal...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> >> >I said to David Harrison that there exist some farmed animals such >> >that it would be a better outcome for them to live the life they do >> >rather than for them not to live at all and for no animals to live in >> >their place. >> >> No, that isn't what you said to Harrison, you unethical >> liar. You said, >> >> �"I accept that some nonhuman animals who are raised >> � for food on farms have lives which are such that it is >> � better that they live that life than that they not live at all" >> � Rupert 24 July 2008 http://tinyurl.com/5m8t28 > >"It is a better outcome" is the natural interpretation of "it is >better". No, it is not, and nor did you make any effort to indicate that it was. You tried to give the impression that you said something entirely different to what you originally wrote in your above quote, by writing, "I said to David Harrison that ..." You lied, but that's what I've come to expect from you. >> As we can plainly see, you didn't mention anything about >> "a better outcome", or anything about "no animals to live >> in their place". What you wrote is perfectly clear, > >Yes, it is perfectly clear that I correctly paraphrased what I wrote. No, you did not paraphrase your original quote. You wrote, "I SAID to David Harrison that ......", not, "To paraphrase something I said to David Harrison ..." >> and >> doesn't include those little extra additions you've made >> here. They weren't implied, either. > >Of course they were. No. Stop lying. >> You added them after >> being caught out. Like I've been telling you, rupie, you're >> an unethical liar and you don't argue in good faith. > >No Yes, absolutely yes, you desperate clown. >> You may just as well have written, >> >> �"I accept that some nonhuman animals who are raised >> � for [vivisection] on farms have lives which are such that >> � it is better that they live that life than that they not live at >> � all" > >Animals which are bred for vivisection are not raised on farms. Yes they are, you stupid clown. [This week Darley Oaks Farm in Newchurch, Staffordshire, which bred guinea pigs for vivisection, announced they would be closing at the end of the year. The campaign to close the farm began in 1999 with the liberation of 600 guinea pigs being bred for scientific �research�.] http://www.schnews.org.uk/archive/news509.htm Where do you think researchers find "knock-out", "nude" and "transgenic" mice, you stupid clown - under the floor boards? [Early in the 20th century, its potential to shed light on the genetic study of human diseases was recognized by scientists who established the Jackson Laboratory, based in Bar Harbor, Maine, which remains a well-known mouse farm.] http://tinyurl.com/5geeuv >In the >case of animals who are vivisected I am not sure that their lives are >overall worth living, but even if I do decide that they are that in no >way commits me to supporting vivisection. Of course it would, because according to you "I accept that some nonhuman animals who are raised � for [X] on farms have lives which are such that it is better that they live that life than that they not live at all"
From: Derek on 22 Aug 2008 06:56 On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 00:56:34 -0700 (PDT), Rupert <rupertmccallum(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > I need an antipsychotic medication to function properly. Well, take it from me, it isn't working.
From: Rupert on 22 Aug 2008 22:44 On Aug 22, 6:56 pm, Derek <usenet.em...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 00:56:34 -0700 (PDT), Rupert <rupertmccal...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > I need an antipsychotic medication to function properly. > > Well, take it from me, it isn't working. Are you proud of that, Derek? You've just mocked someone for having a mental illness and been congratulated by Ball for it. Do you mock people who have cerebral palsy as well? You really are a disgusting little twerp.
From: Rupert on 22 Aug 2008 22:58
On Aug 22, 10:55 am, Derek <usenet.em...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 20:42:57 -0700 (PDT), Rupert <rupertmccal...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >On Aug 21, 12:31 am, Derek <usenet.em...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:46:52 -0700 (PDT), Rupert <rupertmccal...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > >> >I said to David Harrison that there exist some farmed animals such > >> >that it would be a better outcome for them to live the life they do > >> >rather than for them not to live at all and for no animals to live in > >> >their place. > > >> No, that isn't what you said to Harrison, you unethical > >> liar. You said, > > >> "I accept that some nonhuman animals who are raised > >> for food on farms have lives which are such that it is > >> better that they live that life than that they not live at all" > >> Rupert 24 July 2008http://tinyurl.com/5m8t28 > > >"It is a better outcome" is the natural interpretation of "it is > >better". > > No, it is not, It is, actually, Derek. You mock people for having a history of mental illness, which means I'm a much better human being than you no matter what. You don't deserve the privilege of receiving a reply to the rest of your post or being spat upon by me. |