From: Yuri Kuchinsky on

"Vaccine-man" <ziggittes(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:abfeeb04-ab9a-4a96-8456-227e5e0dfb70(a)d61g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 24, 5:07 am, "JOHN" <j...(a)nospam.com> wrote:
>> "Vaccine-man" <ziggit...(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:dd267426-5852-4708-9124-e6d5c7c2ebe3(a)d4g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > On Nov 23, 2:45 pm, "JOHN" <j...(a)nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>> >>http://www.whale.to/a/virus.html
>>
>> > Scudamore, you have heard of the Cutter Incident?
>>
>> yes, one of your many vaccine
>> disastershttp://www.whale.to/m/smallpox/disasters.html
>
> Gee, John, I don't understand you. You say polio virus doesn't cause
> polio, yet when it was inadvertantly injected into humans they get
> polio. How can that be?

Since polio is most likely just a form of chemical poisoning, it won't be
too surprising that the symptoms of polio may result from vaccines.



Yuri.






From: Vaccine-man on
On Nov 25, 7:46 pm, "Yuri Kuchinsky" <y...(a)trends.ca> wrote:

> Since polio is most likely just a form of chemical poisoning, it won't be
> too surprising that the symptoms of polio may result from vaccines.
>
> Yuri.

So why was it, then, that the only ones who got polio received
immunizations from the *improperly* inactivated Cutter vaccine (i.e.,
still contained infectious polio virus), while those who received the
*properly* inactivated Cutter vaccine did not get polio? The only
difference between the lots was that the one that caused polio didn't
have enough formalin in it. Everything else between the lots was
identical.
From: Vaccine-man on
On Nov 25, 7:40 pm, yu0...(a)gmail.com wrote:
> On Nov 23, 8:13 pm, wri...(a)l1000.prodigy.net (David Wright) wrote:

> > In the fraudulent "quotation."
>
> The quotation is not fraudulent.

Yuri, can you provide the entire text of Dr. Sabin's speech so that we
can all evaluate its context? I have searched Google and cannot locate
it. In fact, the only places that I do see this quotation are on
antivaccine web sites. Surely, in the interest of *honest discussion*
you can provide us the evidence we need to independently evaluate your
assertions.
From: Mark Probert on
Vaccine-man wrote:
> On Nov 25, 7:46 pm, "Yuri Kuchinsky" <y...(a)trends.ca> wrote:
>
>> Since polio is most likely just a form of chemical poisoning, it won't be
>> too surprising that the symptoms of polio may result from vaccines.
>>
>> Yuri.
>
> So why was it, then, that the only ones who got polio received
> immunizations from the *improperly* inactivated Cutter vaccine (i.e.,
> still contained infectious polio virus), while those who received the
> *properly* inactivated Cutter vaccine did not get polio? The only
> difference between the lots was that the one that caused polio didn't
> have enough formalin in it. Everything else between the lots was
> identical.

You are asking Yuri to think? Absurd.
From: Mark Probert on
yu00ku(a)gmail.com wrote:
> On Nov 23, 8:13 pm, wri...(a)l1000.prodigy.net (David Wright) wrote:
>> In article <03ee1d5f-b61d-4455-a86a-11faca05f...(a)e23g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, <yu0...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Anyone who's really interested in the history of polio, and how the
>>> polio epidemics correlate with pesticide production, will do well to
>> read the following article by Jim West,
>>
>>
>>
>>> http://www.geocities.com/harpub/pol_all.htm
>>> Polio was a new disease (which should already be quite suspicious),
>> What's suspicious is that polio is not a "new" disease. It was first
>> named in 1840 and is clearly much older. Certainly older than the
>> pesticide industry.
>
> But the first polio epidemic was in 1887.
>
>>> and it was never really 'eradicated'. The same types of symptoms are
>>> still quite prevalent, they are just given different
>>> names/diagnoses. Polio vaccines didn't really help anyone, as
>>> Dr. Sabin seems to confirm below.
>> In the fraudulent "quotation."
>
> The quotation is not fraudulent.

When the only sources of the quote are anti-vac websites, and you refuse
to post the original in context, it is more likely to be fraudulent than
valid.

>
>> Except that the symptoms are not "still quite prevalent;"
>
> Yes, they are still quite prevalent.
>
>> we aren't sticking people in iron lungs any
>> more, nor do you see all the kids with leg braces etc.
>
> These were old treatments. Irrelevant.
>
> Yuri.
>
> Yuri Kuchinsky -=O=- http://www.globalserve.net/~yuku
>
> "May as well consult a butcher on the value of vegetarianism as a
> doctor on the worth of vaccination." -- George Bernard Shaw