From: Peter Bowditch on
yu00ku(a)gmail.com wrote:

>On Nov 30, 2:58 pm, Jeff <kidsdoc2...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Yuri Kuchinsky wrote:
>> > "Vaccine-man" <ziggit...(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> >news:53321117-4f36-4eac-b278-b3c360c9d96c(a)g30g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>> >> On Nov 27, 2:11 pm, "Yuri Kuchinsky" <y...(a)trends.ca> wrote:
>>
>> >>> There's no evidence that this quote from Sabin is incorrect. I'm sorry it
>> >>> doesn't fit into your world view, but it's not my fault...
>>
>> >>> Yuri.
>> >> There is plenty of evidence that he didn't say it
>>
>> > Where is the evidence that he didn't say it?
>>
>> How do you prove a negative?
>>
>> Do you think that on his dying day, he wrote out everything he didn't say?
>>
>> You made a claim that he said something. Please provide real evidence
>> that he did, not the laughing stock web page (whale.to).
>>
>> >> (or if he did, it is
>> >> taken out of context. This is a person who *until his dying day*
>> >> promoted vaccination against vaccine-preventable diseases. How could
>> >> he have possible made the comment you have asserted?
>>
>> >> Once again, can you provide the full text of this supposed
>> >> presentation that Dr. Sabin gave? Otherwise, you should admit that you
>> >> don't have any first hand evidence that this statement was ever made.
>>
>> > So far, we only get your _opinion_ that he didn't say it. That's not good
>> > enough.
>>
>> It is inconsistent with the rest of the work he did. And you have
>> offered no verifiable evidence that he said it.
>>
>> Jeff
>
>This game is really getting old...
>
>This Sabin quote was first used on Usenet on Feb 7 1998 by Natural
>Mom.
>
>David Wright reply on Oct 18 1999
>"*Where and when* did he say this? I would be he either said no such
>thing, or he's being quoted out of context."
>
>Also, "Jeff" said something similar about 9 years ago.
>
>The same cast of characters, the same lame excuses...
>
>Why don't you just close your eyes and ears and keep saying, "He
>didn't say it, he didn't say it, he didn't say it, he didn't say
>it..."
>
>This'll be VERY persuasive...
>
>LOL!
>
>Yuri.

You just don't get it, do you Yuri?

You have just told us that the anti-vaccination liars have had 9 years
to come up with the source of the quote and haven't been able to do
so. What does that tell you? It tells thinking beings that the "quote"
is fraudulent.

--
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From: Mark Probert on
Kevysmom wrote:
> Have you rat bags ever seen a child that was vaccine injured? Why not
> visit the
> childrens hospital where they keep the cronically ill children (Acute
> Pediatrics)
>
> Im sure you will change your mind after you see a 1 year child
> strapped to a bed connected to IV's and machines having severe
> seizures that no meds will control, The only way to prevent even more
> brain damage is to place the child in an induced coma. Yeah, this is
> what a vaccine injured child deals with until the Lord takes him home.
>
> Try it, its amazing how holding a sick child in your arms can awaken
> the senses of compassion.
>

Like a friend of mine...he held his sick child in his arms while a now
vaccine preventable disease ravage the child's brain.

The child is now in his 20's wears diapers, and needs help with all ADL.

BTW, the friend was a practicing pediatric neurologist who now practices
general pediatrics. If a parent refuses vaccination, he chucks them out
the door. He's held one, he never wants to hold another.
From: Mark Probert on
Yuri Kuchinsky wrote:
> "Vaccine-man" <ziggittes(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:53321117-4f36-4eac-b278-b3c360c9d96c(a)g30g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>> On Nov 27, 2:11 pm, "Yuri Kuchinsky" <y...(a)trends.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> There's no evidence that this quote from Sabin is incorrect. I'm sorry it
>>> doesn't fit into your world view, but it's not my fault...
>>>
>>> Yuri.
>> There is plenty of evidence that he didn't say it
>
> Where is the evidence that he didn't say it?

You have the burden pf proving he said it.

You cannot.

You lose.

>
>> (or if he did, it is
>> taken out of context. This is a person who *until his dying day*
>> promoted vaccination against vaccine-preventable diseases. How could
>> he have possible made the comment you have asserted?
>>
>> Once again, can you provide the full text of this supposed
>> presentation that Dr. Sabin gave? Otherwise, you should admit that you
>> don't have any first hand evidence that this statement was ever made.
>
> So far, we only get your _opinion_ that he didn't say it. That's not good
> enough.

So far, we only have your opinion, and the fact that it is only on
anti-vac liar sociopath sites, and that proves it was not said.
From: Vaccine-man on
On Nov 30, 3:37 pm, "Yuri Kuchinsky" <y...(a)trends.ca> wrote:

> Will you say that the AIDS virus is also easy to find?
>
> Yuri.

Yuri, are you trying to move the goalposts again? So, you get defeated
in one argument and you try to change the subject? Please, start a new
thread. Otherwise, people might think you're engaging in obfuscation.
We wouldn't want that, would we?

From: Rudy Canoza on
Mark Probert wrote:
> Yuri Kuchinsky wrote:
>> "Vaccine-man" <ziggittes(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:53321117-4f36-4eac-b278-b3c360c9d96c(a)g30g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>>> On Nov 27, 2:11 pm, "Yuri Kuchinsky" <y...(a)trends.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>>> There's no evidence that this quote from Sabin is incorrect. I'm
>>>> sorry it
>>>> doesn't fit into your world view, but it's not my fault...
>>>>
>>>> Yuri.
>>> There is plenty of evidence that he didn't say it
>>
>> Where is the evidence that he didn't say it?
>
> You have the burden pf proving he said it.
>
> You cannot.
>
> You lose.
>
>>
>>> (or if he did, it is
>>> taken out of context. This is a person who *until his dying day*
>>> promoted vaccination against vaccine-preventable diseases. How could
>>> he have possible made the comment you have asserted?
>>>
>>> Once again, can you provide the full text of this supposed
>>> presentation that Dr. Sabin gave? Otherwise, you should admit that you
>>> don't have any first hand evidence that this statement was ever made.
>>
>> So far, we only get your _opinion_ that he didn't say it. That's not
>> good enough.
>
> So far, we only have your opinion, and the fact that it is only on
> anti-vac liar sociopath sites, and that proves it was not said.

It doesn't prove it wasn't said, but it strongly
suggests it.