From: Peter Bowditch on
"Yuri Kuchinsky" <yuku(a)trends.ca> wrote:

>
>"Jeff" <kidsdoc2000(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:V213j.50385$Pt.2015(a)trnddc02...
>> Yuri Kuchinsky wrote:
>>> "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:FDK2j.9970$ch.676(a)trnddc03...
>>>> yu00ku(a)gmail.com wrote:
>>>> <...>
>>>>
>>>>> Since polio is most likely just a form of chemical poisoning, it won't
>>>>> be too surprising that the symptoms of polio may result from vaccines.
>>>> Funny thing is that in rare outbreaks of polio from the vaccine strain
>>>> of the virus,
>>>
>>> Not rare at all...
>>
>> Evidence please.
>
>during a 1962 U.S. Congressional hearing, Dr. Bernard Greenberg, head of the
>Department of Biostatistics for the University of North Carolina School of
>Public Health, testified that cases of polio not only increased after
>mandatory vaccinations --up 50% from 1957 to 1958, and up 80% from 1958 to
>1959 -- but that the statistics were deliberately manipulated by the Public
>Health Service to give the opposite impression.

What was asked for was evidence that the vaccine caused polio. You did
not provide that, because sentient beings know why the incidence of
polio went up for a while after the vaccination campaign started.

>
>
>>>> the people who get polio have one thing in common in their
>>>> stool that most people lack: the virus. So please explain why people
>>>> with polio have a virus that can be isolated from their stool while
>>>> those of us without polio don't have it in our stool.
>>>
>>> There are all sorts of problems with isolating the polio virus...
>>>
>>> Yuri.
>>
>> What problems are present with finding the virus in the stool of people
>> who don't have polio compared to those who do?
>
>There's a general problem with finding the virus.

What is this problem?


>
>Yuri.
>
>Yuri Kuchinsky -=O=- http://www.globalserve.net/~yuku
>
>"Official data have shown that the large-scale vaccinations undertaken in
>the US have failed to obtain any significant improvement of the diseases
>against which they were supposed to provide protection." -- Dr A. Sabin,
>developer of the Oral Polio vaccine.
>

I see that you are still using that lie of a "quote".

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From: Peter Bowditch on
"Yuri Kuchinsky" <yuku(a)trends.ca> wrote:

>
>"Vaccine-man" <ziggittes(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:1ff839d2-9abd-407b-9998-02eaaa7304a2(a)e10g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>> On Nov 27, 2:14 pm, "Yuri Kuchinsky" <y...(a)trends.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> Does this egregious case of medical malpractice constitute your best
>>> evidence for the validity of the official polio story?
>>>
>>> Yuri.
>>
>> No, but it does disprove your assertion that polio is caused by
>> "chemical toxicity." There is no other explanation for these polio
>> cases other than polio virus causes polio.
>
>I'm sure there are other explanations.

What are they.

>
>Yuri.
>
>Yuri Kuchinsky -=O=- http://www.globalserve.net/~yuku
>
>"There is a great deal of evidence to prove that immunisation of children
>does more harm than good." -- Dr J Anthony Morris, former Chief Vaccine
>Control Officer, FDA.

I see that you are still using that lie as a "quote".

--
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From: Peter Bowditch on
"Yuri Kuchinsky" <yuku(a)trends.ca> wrote:

>
>"Vaccine-man" <ziggittes(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:53321117-4f36-4eac-b278-b3c360c9d96c(a)g30g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>> On Nov 27, 2:11 pm, "Yuri Kuchinsky" <y...(a)trends.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> There's no evidence that this quote from Sabin is incorrect. I'm sorry it
>>> doesn't fit into your world view, but it's not my fault...
>>>
>>> Yuri.
>>
>> There is plenty of evidence that he didn't say it
>
>Where is the evidence that he didn't say it?
>
>> (or if he did, it is
>> taken out of context. This is a person who *until his dying day*
>> promoted vaccination against vaccine-preventable diseases. How could
>> he have possible made the comment you have asserted?
>>
>> Once again, can you provide the full text of this supposed
>> presentation that Dr. Sabin gave? Otherwise, you should admit that you
>> don't have any first hand evidence that this statement was ever made.
>
>So far, we only get your _opinion_ that he didn't say it. That's not good
>enough.

No, what would be good enough would be YOU giving a citation that does
not involve some anti-vaccination liar site and which manages to at
least spell the month correctly.

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From: Rudy Canoza on
Yuri Kuchinsky wrote:
> "Vaccine-man" <ziggittes(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:53321117-4f36-4eac-b278-b3c360c9d96c(a)g30g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>> On Nov 27, 2:11 pm, "Yuri Kuchinsky" <y...(a)trends.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> There's no evidence that this quote from Sabin is incorrect. I'm sorry it
>>> doesn't fit into your world view, but it's not my fault...
>>>
>>> Yuri.
>> There is plenty of evidence that he didn't say it
>
> Where is the evidence that he didn't say it?

Where is the evidence that George Bush didn't call you
a stupid lying douchebag? Come on, where is it?


>> (or if he did, it is
>> taken out of context. This is a person who *until his dying day*
>> promoted vaccination against vaccine-preventable diseases. How could
>> he have possible made the comment you have asserted?
>>
>> Once again, can you provide the full text of this supposed
>> presentation that Dr. Sabin gave? Otherwise, you should admit that you
>> don't have any first hand evidence that this statement was ever made.
>
> So far, we only get your _opinion_ that he didn't say it.

So far, we have no verifiable evidence that he said it.
And, as before, we still have no verifiable evidence
that George Bush /didn't/ call you a stupid lying
douchebag.
From: yu00ku on
On Nov 30, 2:58 pm, Jeff <kidsdoc2...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> Yuri Kuchinsky wrote:
> > "Vaccine-man" <ziggit...(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >news:53321117-4f36-4eac-b278-b3c360c9d96c(a)g30g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> >> On Nov 27, 2:11 pm, "Yuri Kuchinsky" <y...(a)trends.ca> wrote:
>
> >>> There's no evidence that this quote from Sabin is incorrect. I'm sorry it
> >>> doesn't fit into your world view, but it's not my fault...
>
> >>> Yuri.
> >> There is plenty of evidence that he didn't say it
>
> > Where is the evidence that he didn't say it?
>
> How do you prove a negative?
>
> Do you think that on his dying day, he wrote out everything he didn't say?
>
> You made a claim that he said something. Please provide real evidence
> that he did, not the laughing stock web page (whale.to).
>
> >> (or if he did, it is
> >> taken out of context. This is a person who *until his dying day*
> >> promoted vaccination against vaccine-preventable diseases. How could
> >> he have possible made the comment you have asserted?
>
> >> Once again, can you provide the full text of this supposed
> >> presentation that Dr. Sabin gave? Otherwise, you should admit that you
> >> don't have any first hand evidence that this statement was ever made.
>
> > So far, we only get your _opinion_ that he didn't say it. That's not good
> > enough.
>
> It is inconsistent with the rest of the work he did. And you have
> offered no verifiable evidence that he said it.
>
> Jeff

This game is really getting old...

This Sabin quote was first used on Usenet on Feb 7 1998 by Natural
Mom.

David Wright reply on Oct 18 1999
"*Where and when* did he say this? I would be he either said no such
thing, or he's being quoted out of context."

Also, "Jeff" said something similar about 9 years ago.

The same cast of characters, the same lame excuses...

Why don't you just close your eyes and ears and keep saying, "He
didn't say it, he didn't say it, he didn't say it, he didn't say
it..."

This'll be VERY persuasive...

LOL!

Yuri.

Polio epidemics in the US correlate extremely well with the production
of pesticides. The truth about polio,
http://www.geocities.com/harpub/pol_all.htm