From: Richard Schultz on
In misc.health.alternative Peter Bowditch <myfirstname(a)ratbags.com> wrote:

: Also, I said that now I could make the accusation, not that you had
: done it.

I know that, but as someone who was once threated with a libel suit over
something demonstrably true that he posted to usenet, I wanted to make sure
that in this case, I was on the record in a way that is not susceptible to
misinterpretation.

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Richard Schultz schultr(a)mail.biu.ac.il
Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel
Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University
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"an optimist is a guy/ that has never had/ much experience"
From: Richard Schultz on
In misc.health.alternative Peter Bowditch <myfirstname(a)ratbags.com> wrote:

: Dear Peter,
: I am checking a couple of places I think might be able to help us with
: this. Thanks for your dilligence in pointing this out. I think it's
: obvious that the quote has been cut and pasted from website to website
: without any real thought by the fact that most of them say "Decemebr"
: 7, 1985! I'll let you know what I find out.

Also note that a Google search turns up an Italian site that contains
the quote and the citation translated word-for-word from the English; or
perhaps the version in English that is found on the various websites is
a word-for-word translation from the Italian.

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Richard Schultz schultr(a)mail.biu.ac.il
Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel
Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University
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"Contrariwise," continued Tweedledee, "if it was so, it might be, and
if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic."
From: Richard Schultz on
In misc.health.alternative Rudy Canoza <pipes(a)thedismalscience.net> wrote:

: This is assuredly what happened with this "quote". You
: can tell because in every single citation of it you
: find, Sabin is always identified as "A. Sabin".

Maybe they mean "A Sabin" in the sense that Albert Sabin is *the* Sabin,
and that in fact, somebody else named Sabin (i.e. not the developer of the
vaccine) said the words attributed to "A Sabin."

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Richard Schultz schultr(a)mail.biu.ac.il
Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel
Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University
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"Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers which smell bad."
From: Peter Bowditch on
schultr(a)mail.biu.ack.il (Richard Schultz) wrote:

>In misc.health.alternative Peter Bowditch <myfirstname(a)ratbags.com> wrote:
>
>: Also, I said that now I could make the accusation, not that you had
>: done it.
>
>I know that, but as someone who was once threated with a libel suit over
>something demonstrably true that he posted to usenet, I wanted to make sure
>that in this case, I was on the record in a way that is not susceptible to
>misinterpretation.

Point taken, and taken by someone who wasn't just threatened for
speaking the truth but dragged into court for doing it.

--
Peter Bowditch aa #2243
The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles
Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au
Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au
To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com
From: Yuri Kuchinsky on

"Jeff" <kidsdoc2000(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:V213j.50385$Pt.2015(a)trnddc02...
> Yuri Kuchinsky wrote:
>> "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:FDK2j.9970$ch.676(a)trnddc03...
>>> yu00ku(a)gmail.com wrote:
>>> <...>
>>>
>>>> Since polio is most likely just a form of chemical poisoning, it won't
>>>> be too surprising that the symptoms of polio may result from vaccines.
>>> Funny thing is that in rare outbreaks of polio from the vaccine strain
>>> of the virus,
>>
>> Not rare at all...
>
> Evidence please.

during a 1962 U.S. Congressional hearing, Dr. Bernard Greenberg, head of the
Department of Biostatistics for the University of North Carolina School of
Public Health, testified that cases of polio not only increased after
mandatory vaccinations --up 50% from 1957 to 1958, and up 80% from 1958 to
1959 -- but that the statistics were deliberately manipulated by the Public
Health Service to give the opposite impression.


>>> the people who get polio have one thing in common in their
>>> stool that most people lack: the virus. So please explain why people
>>> with polio have a virus that can be isolated from their stool while
>>> those of us without polio don't have it in our stool.
>>
>> There are all sorts of problems with isolating the polio virus...
>>
>> Yuri.
>
> What problems are present with finding the virus in the stool of people
> who don't have polio compared to those who do?

There's a general problem with finding the virus.

Yuri.

Yuri Kuchinsky -=O=- http://www.globalserve.net/~yuku

"Official data have shown that the large-scale vaccinations undertaken in
the US have failed to obtain any significant improvement of the diseases
against which they were supposed to provide protection." -- Dr A. Sabin,
developer of the Oral Polio vaccine.