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From: David Wardlow / The Wardlows on 3 Aug 2008 14:22 I have been reading this newsgroup for a couple weeks, and I like the "mixed bag of answers" that comes with it... I have also been researching different websites that offer information and communities for diabetic people. I would like to ask for suggestions and wisdom and knowledge, if you would share same. I was diagnosed 15 years ago with diabetes, and began my journey with oral meds and for a short time, insulin injections (which increased to over 100 units a day). Over the past 6-7 years, I have been using only oral meds, every designer drug they came up with, my doctor prescribed it. I took Avandia for several years, with great results. Then I graduated to the newer drugs. My control never got to the normal ranges that everyone is reaching for, but I was under 200 fasting and after meals and I felt good. I am also medicated for hypertension. I have had problems with my blood pressure since I was a teenager, according to my mother. I didn't know that I had a problem until my first pregnancy. For the past several years, I have been dealing with EDEMA. Many days I must force my feet into my shoes for work, when the tops of feet look like pink pillows and my toes little thorns sticking out around them. Doesn't look as funny as it sounds, and it hurts alot having your feet look like they'll blow up. The other signs of the edema is that my lower legs are now discolored, almost like freckles that went crazy, but they aren't covered by freckles. The doctor will not tell me what this staining of my lower legs is. When I have been walking or on my legs for a time, the same area is hot to touch and has turned blushed. Very concerning for me since I have diabetes, and I worry about the loss of my legs. Along with the Edema, I also began coughing alot... I worried about congestive heart failure (more fluid). The doctor ignored my constant questions about it... he just kept changing meds that were classified the same, for which I feel had side effects that caused the edema. He increased my diuretic and told me to drink less fluids, to withhold fluids. That is my history up to this point. On August 31, I am losing my health insurance benefit at work. Therefore, I won't be able to buy the designer drugs without the insurance copay and so, the doctor has put me back on insulin. I have not had any luck yet, over the past month, getting my readings below 200 on Metformin 1000 x 2 per day and Humulin 70/30 28 units x 2 per day. My first week, I was in the 400-500 range. If I stop eating, will the readings go down? And when I do eat, if I concentrate on eating protein, no carbs unless they are vegetables (salads, tomato, avocado), wouldn't this lower the bg and the edema too? I know the low carb diets usually cause a watershed effect. I have decided to drop coffee from my routine since I have such high cortisol readings and if coffee contributes to my blood sugar/blood pressure problems, I can stop drinking coffee. If high coritsol and the apple shape have caused these diseases to trump me, is it possible for me to deal with these things without medicine? I can't buy medicine and pay my rent too. If I have to give up something, I will give up grains and coffee. Do I have a snowball's chance... Today my sugar was 259 fasting, 328 45-min after eating breakfast (scrambled egg with avocado and tomato and feta cheese, 1 pc bacon) water and 2 ounces of soy milk I am also working hard at adding daily exercise, more sleep, less stress (impossible!), and strength training 2x week. Thank you for reading this long post, and for your consideration. Elizabeth
From: Julie Bove on 3 Aug 2008 16:31 "David Wardlow / The Wardlows" <callmeyankee2(a)geusnet.com> wrote in message news:RHmlk.603$AB3.1804(a)eagle.america.net... >I have been reading this newsgroup for a couple weeks, and I like the >"mixed bag of answers" that comes with it... > > I have also been researching different websites that offer information and > communities for diabetic people. > > I would like to ask for suggestions and wisdom and knowledge, if you would > share same. > > I was diagnosed 15 years ago with diabetes, and began my journey with oral > meds and for a short time, insulin injections (which increased to over 100 > units a day). Over the past 6-7 years, I have been using only oral meds, > every designer drug they came up with, my doctor prescribed it. I took > Avandia for several years, with great results. Then I graduated to the > newer drugs. My control never got to the normal ranges that everyone is > reaching for, but I was under 200 fasting and after meals and I felt good. > > I am also medicated for hypertension. I have had problems with my blood > pressure since I was a teenager, according to my mother. I didn't know > that I had a problem until my first pregnancy. > > For the past several years, I have been dealing with EDEMA. Many days I > must force my feet into my shoes for work, when the tops of feet look like > pink pillows and my toes little thorns sticking out around them. Doesn't > look as funny as it sounds, and it hurts alot having your feet look like > they'll blow up. The other signs of the edema is that my lower legs are > now discolored, almost like freckles that went crazy, but they aren't > covered by freckles. The doctor will not tell me what this staining of my > lower legs is. When I have been walking or on my legs for a time, the same > area is hot to touch and has turned blushed. Very concerning for me since > I have diabetes, and I worry about the loss of my legs. > > Along with the Edema, I also began coughing alot... I worried about > congestive heart failure (more fluid). > > The doctor ignored my constant questions about it... he just kept changing > meds that were classified the same, for which I feel had side effects that > caused the edema. He increased my diuretic and told me to drink less > fluids, to withhold fluids. > > That is my history up to this point. > > On August 31, I am losing my health insurance benefit at work. Therefore, > I won't be able to buy the designer drugs without the insurance copay and > so, the doctor has put me back on insulin. > > I have not had any luck yet, over the past month, getting my readings > below 200 on Metformin 1000 x 2 per day and Humulin 70/30 28 units x 2 per > day. My first week, I was in the 400-500 range. > > If I stop eating, will the readings go down? And when I do eat, if I > concentrate on eating protein, no carbs unless they are vegetables > (salads, tomato, avocado), wouldn't this lower the bg and the edema too? I > know the low carb diets usually cause a watershed effect. > > I have decided to drop coffee from my routine since I have such high > cortisol readings and if coffee contributes to my blood sugar/blood > pressure problems, I can stop drinking coffee. > > If high coritsol and the apple shape have caused these diseases to trump > me, is it possible for me to deal with these things without medicine? I > can't buy medicine and pay my rent too. If I have to give up something, I > will give up grains and coffee. Do I have a snowball's chance... > > Today my sugar was 259 fasting, 328 45-min after eating breakfast > (scrambled egg with avocado and tomato and feta cheese, 1 pc bacon) water > and 2 ounces of soy milk > > I am also working hard at adding daily exercise, more sleep, less stress > (impossible!), and strength training 2x week. > > Thank you for reading this long post, and for your consideration. You need to find the cause for your edema. In my case it is partly venous insufficiency. Low carb dieting doesn't help me and if anything just pushes my numbers up higher. It also does nothing at all for my swelling. Good luck!
From: Robert Miles on 3 Aug 2008 17:11 "David Wardlow / The Wardlows" <callmeyankee2(a)geusnet.com> wrote in message news:RHmlk.603$AB3.1804(a)eagle.america.net... >I have been reading this newsgroup for a couple weeks, and I like the >"mixed bag of answers" that comes with it... > > I have also been researching different websites that offer information and > communities for diabetic people. > > I would like to ask for suggestions and wisdom and knowledge, if you would > share same. > > I was diagnosed 15 years ago with diabetes, and began my journey with oral > meds and for a short time, insulin injections (which increased to over 100 > units a day). Over the past 6-7 years, I have been using only oral meds, > every designer drug they came up with, my doctor prescribed it. I took > Avandia for several years, with great results. Then I graduated to the > newer drugs. My control never got to the normal ranges that everyone is > reaching for, but I was under 200 fasting and after meals and I felt good. > > I am also medicated for hypertension. I have had problems with my blood > pressure since I was a teenager, according to my mother. I didn't know > that I had a problem until my first pregnancy. > > For the past several years, I have been dealing with EDEMA. Many days I > must force my feet into my shoes for work, when the tops of feet look like > pink pillows and my toes little thorns sticking out around them. Doesn't > look as funny as it sounds, and it hurts alot having your feet look like > they'll blow up. The other signs of the edema is that my lower legs are > now discolored, almost like freckles that went crazy, but they aren't > covered by freckles. The doctor will not tell me what this staining of my > lower legs is. When I have been walking or on my legs for a time, the same > area is hot to touch and has turned blushed. Very concerning for me since > I have diabetes, and I worry about the loss of my legs. > > Along with the Edema, I also began coughing alot... I worried about > congestive heart failure (more fluid). > > The doctor ignored my constant questions about it... he just kept changing > meds that were classified the same, for which I feel had side effects that > caused the edema. He increased my diuretic and told me to drink less > fluids, to withhold fluids. > > That is my history up to this point. > > On August 31, I am losing my health insurance benefit at work. Therefore, > I won't be able to buy the designer drugs without the insurance copay and > so, the doctor has put me back on insulin. > > I have not had any luck yet, over the past month, getting my readings > below 200 on Metformin 1000 x 2 per day and Humulin 70/30 28 units x 2 per > day. My first week, I was in the 400-500 range. > > If I stop eating, will the readings go down? And when I do eat, if I > concentrate on eating protein, no carbs unless they are vegetables > (salads, tomato, avocado), wouldn't this lower the bg and the edema too? I > know the low carb diets usually cause a watershed effect. > > I have decided to drop coffee from my routine since I have such high > cortisol readings and if coffee contributes to my blood sugar/blood > pressure problems, I can stop drinking coffee. > > If high coritsol and the apple shape have caused these diseases to trump > me, is it possible for me to deal with these things without medicine? I > can't buy medicine and pay my rent too. If I have to give up something, I > will give up grains and coffee. Do I have a snowball's chance... > > Today my sugar was 259 fasting, 328 45-min after eating breakfast > (scrambled egg with avocado and tomato and feta cheese, 1 pc bacon) water > and 2 ounces of soy milk > > I am also working hard at adding daily exercise, more sleep, less stress > (impossible!), and strength training 2x week. > > Thank you for reading this long post, and for your consideration. > Elizabeth > Welcome to a group few people want to be qualified to join. My insurance company wanted me to switch from Avandia to Actos, apparantly to save them money, and I did for about a month, until the edema side effect I got from it got bad enough to be noticeable. Has anyone told you about these so far? http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/NewlyDiagnosed.htm http://www.healthcentral.com/diabetes/c/5068/25614/exercise-fat http://www.sciencedaily.com/news/health_medicine/diabetes/
From: Nicky on 3 Aug 2008 18:00 On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 13:22:43 -0500, "David Wardlow / The Wardlows" <callmeyankee2(a)geusnet.com> wrote: >If high coritsol and the apple shape have caused these diseases to trump me, >is it possible for me to deal with these things without medicine? I can't >buy medicine and pay my rent too. If I have to give up something, I will >give up grains and coffee. Do I have a snowball's chance... Maybe. And I especially like the exercise routine alongside the diet. But that edema is a problem and needs to be nailed down. It's also possible that your pancreas has been pushed over the edge - but low carb and exercise ought to lower your insulin requirement, if you have to go back on that. Please update us on how things are going! Nicky. T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid D&E, 100ug thyroxine Last A1c 5.4% BMI 25
From: Alan S on 4 Aug 2008 00:11 On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 13:22:43 -0500, "David Wardlow / The Wardlows" <callmeyankee2(a)geusnet.com> wrote: >If I stop eating, will the readings go down? In the short term, maybe, maybe not. The only certain thing will be that they will definitely go down when you die from starvation. >And when I do eat, if I >concentrate on eating protein, no carbs unless they are vegetables (salads, >tomato, avocado), wouldn't this lower the bg and the edema too? I know the >low carb diets usually cause a watershed effect. Probably. Try a variant on that. Read this: http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/NewlyDiagnosed.htm and this: http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/2006/10/test-review-adjust.html Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. -- Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter. Blog http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com DLife column http://tinyurl.com/5v74xr http://loraltravel.blogspot.com (The Taj Mahal)
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