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From: weeks on 6 Nov 2005 07:23 Hi, all, Well I feel like melting down is exactly what I am doing now. I feel ugly about my inner self and the world around me. I have nothing nice to say to anyone directly in my life and actually think of ugly things I could say to them. Maybe I've suppressed my feelings for so long that everything is coming to a head. I did make the med change to Wellbutrin XL, finally, about the beginning of October. Prior to that I was attempting to wean off the Zoloft and was down to such a minute amount and starting to feel this ugliness inside me and extremely short tempered. This is when I went onto the Wellbutrin XL 150 mgs and started to feel a bit better. I increased it again last week by 75 mgs. The short temperedness has gone away. The only plus side is that I lost some weight about 3 weeks into the process of weaning off the Zoloft and going onto the Wellbutrin XL. I am aware that I am finally experiencing some feelings which has been an issue for me for years due to them being blunted. I feel like I'm in a catch 22 right now. Go back on a different AD then possibly weight goes on with that and my feelings get blunted or stay on the Wellbutrin XL and either I continue to feel this ugliness or maybe given time things will change since the short-temperedness did go away. I am also taking Clonazepam 1mg twice daily and Inderal, as needed. Many different issues going on in my life right now - good things, stressful things and issues I have no control over. Any insight from anyone on Wellbutrin XL? Or any thoughts from anyone... I do have a doctor's appointment scheduled for Tuesday if my daughter is able to take me since this is out of my safe driving zone. smiles, Elise -- ========== Please DELETE this text block when replying! ========== Contact the moderators at: asapm-board(a)stump.algebra.com The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm ========= This notice is added to each approved article ==========
From: Tennessee Tony on 6 Nov 2005 10:18 weeks wrote: > Hi, all, > Well I feel like melting down is exactly what I am doing now. I feel ugly > about my inner self and the world around me. I have nothing nice to say to > anyone directly in my life and actually think of ugly things I could say to > them. Maybe I've suppressed my feelings for so long that everything is > coming to a head. > I did make the med change to Wellbutrin XL, finally, about the beginning of > October. Prior to that I was attempting to wean off the Zoloft and was down > to such a minute amount and starting to feel this ugliness inside me and > extremely short tempered. This is when I went onto the Wellbutrin XL 150 > mgs and started to feel a bit better. I increased it again last week by 75 > mgs. The short temperedness has gone away. > The only plus side is that I lost some weight about 3 weeks into the process > of weaning off the Zoloft and going onto the Wellbutrin XL. I am aware that > I am finally experiencing some feelings which has been an issue for me for > years due to them being blunted. I feel like I'm in a catch 22 right now. > Go back on a different AD then possibly weight goes on with that and my > feelings get blunted or stay on the Wellbutrin XL and either I continue to > feel this ugliness or maybe given time things will change since the > short-temperedness did go away. > I am also taking Clonazepam 1mg twice daily and Inderal, as needed. > Many different issues going on in my life right now - good things, stressful > things and issues I have no control over. > Any insight from anyone on Wellbutrin XL? Or any thoughts from anyone... I > do have a doctor's appointment scheduled for Tuesday if my daughter is able > to take me since this is out of my safe driving zone. > smiles, > Elise Hi Elise, I wish so much that I could help in some way, but I don't know anything about Zoloft or Wellbutrin. Clonazepam is a different story, I've been on it for ? 4 or 5 years? I completely lost track of when I started it. Anyway, if you are just starting it, that can blunt your emotions a bit, but that goes away fairly fast. I'm on 6mg's/day. I just want to say that you have always been a great regular here and over the years you have helped me personally and on the group, and I'm very thankful you are a part of this great group of people. (((((Elise))))) Tono -- ========== Please DELETE this text block when replying! ========== Contact the moderators at: asapm-board(a)stump.algebra.com The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm ========= This notice is added to each approved article ==========
From: Chip on 6 Nov 2005 14:13 "weeks" <r_weeks(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:3t6asrFqp095U1(a)individual.net... > Hi, all, > Well I feel like melting down is exactly what I am doing now. I feel ugly > about my inner self and the world around me. Those are thoughts (cognitive), not feelings (emotions). Negative thoughts lead to negative feelings. I have had the same thoughts and consequent feelings when I'm under a lot of stress. > I have nothing nice to say to > anyone directly in my life and actually think of ugly things I could say to > them. Maybe I've suppressed my feelings for so long that everything is > coming to a head. Could be. Or maybe you're under a lot of stress right now which leads to negative thoughts and feelings about oneself and the world. > I did make the med change to Wellbutrin XL, finally, about the beginning of > October. Prior to that I was attempting to wean off the Zoloft and was down > to such a minute amount and starting to feel this ugliness inside me and > extremely short tempered. Irritability could be due to Zoloft withdrawal or depression. Or anything that makes one feel uncomfortable. When I'm depressed I get irritable. > This is when I went onto the Wellbutrin XL 150 > mgs and started to feel a bit better. Better in what way? > I increased it again last week by 75 > mgs. The short temperedness has gone away. > The only plus side is that I lost some weight about 3 weeks into the process > of weaning off the Zoloft and going onto the Wellbutrin XL. I am aware that > I am finally experiencing some feelings which has been an issue for me for > years due to them being blunted. Do you mean blunted by meds? What feelings and emotions have you blunted? > I feel like I'm in a catch 22 right now. > Go back on a different AD then possibly weight goes on with that and my > feelings get blunted or stay on the Wellbutrin XL and either I continue to > feel this ugliness or maybe given time things will change since the > short-temperedness did go away. Since you have several factors going on in your life right now, it's difficult to speculate how changing just one (such as a med change) would effect how you think and feel. What do you think has led to your irritablility? > I am also taking Clonazepam 1mg twice daily and Inderal, as needed. > Many different issues going on in my life right now - good things, stressful > things and issues I have no control over. What don't you have control over? (((Elise))), you have a lot of stresses occuring in your life right now. Both going on Wellbuitrin, and coming off Zoloft can be stressful. Plus your daughter's shower and wedding are stresses. They need alot of planning. If anyone has enough stress on them, they can feel uncomfortable and irritable, and the whole world can start looking ugly. Below are a list of negative "core beliefs". They may be helpful to you. Maybe they apply to you at this time. Chip -------------------------------- Core Beliefs Core beliefs are one's most central ideas about the self. Aaron Beck theorizes that negative core beliefs fall into two broad categories (see below): those associated with helplessness and those associated with unlovability. Some patients have core beliefs that fall in one category; others have core beliefs in both categories. These core beliefs develop in childhood as the child interacts with significant others and encounters a series of situations. For most of their lives most people may maintain relatively positive core beliefs. Negative core beliefs may surface only during times of psychological distress. Negative core beliefs are usually global, overgeneralized and absolute. When a core belief is activated, the patient is easily able to process information that supports it, but often fails to recognize or distorts information that is contrary to it. The cognitive therapist attempts to identify and modify negative core beliefs. Helpless core beliefs: I am helpless I am powerless I am out of control I am weak I am vulnerable I am needy I am trapped I am inadequate I am ineffective I am incompetent I am a failure I am disrespected Unlovable core beliefs: I am unlovable I am unlikable I am undesirable I am unattractive I am unwanted I am uncared for I am bad I am unworthy I am different I am bound to be rejected I am bound to be abandoned I am bound to be alone From: "Cognitive Therapy: Basics and Beyond" by Judith S. Beck Ph.D. -- ========== Please DELETE this text block when replying! ========== Contact the moderators at: asapm-board(a)stump.algebra.com The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm ========= This notice is added to each approved article ==========
From: hianxiety2000@aol.com on 6 Nov 2005 14:12 weeks wrote: > Hi, all, > Well I feel like melting down is exactly what I am doing now. I feel ugly > about my inner self and the world around me. I have nothing nice to say to > anyone directly in my life and actually think of ugly things I could say to > them. Maybe I've suppressed my feelings for so long that everything is > coming to a head. > I did make the med change to Wellbutrin XL, finally, about the beginning of > October. Prior to that I was attempting to wean off the Zoloft and was down > to such a minute amount and starting to feel this ugliness inside me and > extremely short tempered. This is when I went onto the Wellbutrin XL 150 > mgs and started to feel a bit better. I increased it again last week by 75 > mgs. The short temperedness has gone away. > The only plus side is that I lost some weight about 3 weeks into the process > of weaning off the Zoloft and going onto the Wellbutrin XL. I am aware that > I am finally experiencing some feelings which has been an issue for me for > years due to them being blunted. I feel like I'm in a catch 22 right now. > Go back on a different AD then possibly weight goes on with that and my > feelings get blunted or stay on the Wellbutrin XL and either I continue to > feel this ugliness or maybe given time things will change since the > short-temperedness did go away. > I am also taking Clonazepam 1mg twice daily and Inderal, as needed. > Many different issues going on in my life right now - good things, stressful > things and issues I have no control over. > Any insight from anyone on Wellbutrin XL? Or any thoughts from anyone... I > do have a doctor's appointment scheduled for Tuesday if my daughter is able > to take me since this is out of my safe driving zone. > smiles, > Elise ((((((((Elise))))))))))) I was afraid of something like this. Not because of the meds, but because of the situational stuff going on in your life. A med change in the middle of all that just complicates matters. I can't answer the med questions either, but I know there are people here who can. Personally, I wouldn't let weight gain even be a factor about whether to take a med or not. I mean, we're not talking about 30 pounds or anything. Just a few, and you can up your excersize and work them off, so don't let that even be a factor in what you decide on doing about your meds. Oh, I do hope you can make your appointment! Tell your daughter it's REAL important that you go. You really need to talk to your pdoc about the symptoms you are having. And also, I will say this. When we found out my mother was dying I talked to my pdoc about whether we should do a med change or something to help me through it. He was an older man. I liked him so much and he was so wise. He just kind of looked at me and said "There's no magic pill for situations like this." -- Realize that you are under pressure from all sides of you, and factor that into the equation too. It's more than just the meds. You have so much on your plate that it's no wonder you're melting down. Even someone without anxiety issues would be doing the same thing. (((((((((((Elise)))))))))) you are always there for all of us. I hope we can be there for you. I hope some others here can give you advice about the meds, and you know, my inbox is always open to you if you need to vent. Love, Sally -- ========== Please DELETE this text block when replying! ========== Contact the moderators at: asapm-board(a)stump.algebra.com The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm ========= This notice is added to each approved article ==========
From: Jacqueline on 6 Nov 2005 15:37
On Sun, 6 Nov 2005 06:23:03 -0600, "weeks" <r_weeks(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: <Gently snipped> ::I am also taking Clonazepam 1mg twice daily and Inderal, as needed. ::Many different issues going on in my life right now - good things, stressful ::things and issues I have no control over. ::Any insight from anyone on Wellbutrin XL? Or any thoughts from anyone... I ::do have a doctor's appointment scheduled for Tuesday if my daughter is able ::to take me since this is out of my safe driving zone. Dear Elise, I`m sorry you are feeling so out of sorts with yourself. You are one of the most beautiful people I know and it saddens me to think you feel so badly about yourself. What kind of doctor would you be seeing on Tuesday? I hope it is a psychiatrist. He would be the best person to determine what may be going on. It doesn`t appear to be an issue with wellbutrin being this started before you even started it. I`m wondering if you are depressed. With depression comes stinkin thinkin and low sense of self-worth. Another option would be to see a therapist every week for a few months. I think it would do you a lot of good to explore these thoughts and emotions you are having. Keep talking to us, we`ll do our best to help and support you. (((((Elise))))) Jackie ~*~When they discover the center of the universe, a lot of people will be disappointed to discover they are not it~*~ ~~ Bernard Bailey -- ========== Please DELETE this text block when replying! ========== Contact the moderators at: asapm-board(a)stump.algebra.com The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm ========= This notice is added to each approved article ========== |