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From: Ken on 29 Jun 2008 18:41 I have been recently been diagnosed and I have a couple of questions. The girl that I believe gave me HSV2 has been tested at least twice and the tests were negative both times. There is extremely good reason to think it was her. Second partner at 21 years of marriage, Ex claims no sex outside marriage and I believe her one of the reasons I left. I have no doubt but I don't understand. Is she lying about getting clear tests? Second I feel like a loaded gun. I have a new partner and I am really concerned about how I should act and protect her. For example sleeping in the same bed naked. Thanks
From: M2slo2cht on 29 Jun 2008 19:30 I wouldn't know if she's lying or not and it seems at this point it's a moot question. As far as sleeping naked with your partner, as long as you're actually asleep, no problem. In other words, the virus won't transfer from you to the sheets and then her. It's skin to skin contact that does it. If you're having an outbreak you could wear underwear as a precaution. But otherwise the risk of transfer would be pretty low. And as time goes by, the risk will be even lower. M2 Ken writes: >I have been recently been diagnosed and I have a couple of questions. > >The girl that I believe gave me HSV2 has been tested at least twice and >the tests were negative both times. There is extremely good reason to >think it was her. Second partner at 21 years of marriage, Ex claims no >sex outside marriage and I believe her one of the reasons I left. I have >no doubt but I don't understand. Is she lying about getting clear tests? > >Second I feel like a loaded gun. I have a new partner and I am really >concerned about how I should act and protect her. For example sleeping >in the same bed naked. > >Thanks
From: Ken on 29 Jun 2008 20:40 On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 18:30:33 -0500, M2slo2cht wrote: > I wouldn't know if she's lying or not and it seems at this point it's a > moot question. I am trying to understand the testing process, reliability etc. I am also concerned if she goes into denial and then infects someone else. I think that it is certain she is actually positive since we had sex during the initial outbreak because I did not know what it was. I am not sure how I will tackle it with her or even if I will I am just trying to understand. > As far as sleeping naked with your partner, as long as you're actually > asleep, no problem. In other words, the virus won't transfer from you to > the sheets and then her. It's skin to skin contact that does it. If > you're having an outbreak you could wear underwear as a precaution. But > otherwise the risk of transfer would be pretty low. And as time goes by, > the risk will be even lower. This is what I don't really understand. In my reading I remember something about an outbreak occurring before symptoms, ie virus being present on the skin. So can I be active and not know it yet. Second thing is where does the virus appear, only on the site of the first outbreak. I don't really understand why other body parts are not active. Ta
From: M2slo2cht on 1 Jul 2008 23:39 Ken writes: >I am trying to understand the testing process, reliability etc. Depends on which test you're lookin' at.. First, the Swab (culture) type test has a 50% false negative rate which isn't very good but it has a good accuracy rate for a positive result. A swab must be done on an outbreak that is present and visible. Second, the newest blood tests are very accurate as long as the sample is taken at least 12-16 weeks after infection. A test done earlier than that has a much higher false negative rate. But an outbreak isn't necessary for a blood test to be done. A blood test looks for antibodies in the blood so it can give you a fairly definite yes or no to infection, and tell you which type virus it is (Type 1 vs Type 2) but it can't tell you where the infection is located (genital vs oral) like a swab type test can do. Even if suspected symptoms are present, a positive blood test result can't tell you for sure that the symptoms you're seeing aren't caused by something else. >This is what I don't really understand. In my reading I remember >something about an outbreak occurring before symptoms, ie virus being >present on the skin. So can I be active and not know it yet. Yes, virus can be shed from the skin even when there is no visible outbreak. I'll explain further below. >Second thing is where does the virus appear, only on the site of the >first outbreak. I don't really understand why other body parts are not >active. After infection, the virus sets up housekeeping in the Sacral Ganglia where it lies dormant most of the time doing no harm. The Sacral Ganglia is at the base of the spine and is the root of the sensory nerves serving the skin in the boxer shorts area. Occasionally, the dormant virus reactivates and starts replicating (pumping out new viruses) at which point the new viruses travels up a nerve (staying within the nerve) to the surface of the skin. The location where it surfaces is dependant upon which nerve it travels. Sometimes it goes up the same nerve it came in on when infection took place. But it can also travel up a different nerve to surface in a different location. The mechanism that causes the dormant virus to reactivate isn't fully understood but a number of possible triggers are identified. Certain foods, stress, friction, that sort of thing. Everybody has different triggers. The choice of which nerve to take to the skin's service seems to be the path of least resistance but that path is impossible to predict. As I mentioned, viral shedding can occur without symptoms but at some point the volume of virus becomes so great that an outbreak is the result. So that's why you get virus accumulating on the skin surface before the symptoms appear. I hope that helps clear things up a little. M2
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