From: Hyderman DC on

Peter Bowditch <myfirstname(a)ratbags.com> wrote in message
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> The Boom King <Boom!@spamsux.com> wrote:
>
> >possibly
> >developed by a medical professional who couldn't even define the word
> >subluxation
>
> Please define the word "subluxation".
>
> Please tell us how to reliably detect such a thing.

One type of subluxation, correctable by manipulation is a blockage of normal
movement between two contigous vertebrae. It can be readily demonstrated on
flouroscopy, but in practical settings, the skilled hands of the manipulator
can sense it through joint end feel and motion palpation.

It's really not that complicated or hard to understand. You just have to
know how.



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From: Peter Bowditch on
The Boom King <Boom!@spamsux.com> wrote:

>Peter Bowditch wrote:
>
>> The Boom King <Boom!@spamsux.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>possibly developed by a medical professional who couldn't even define the word
>>>subluxation
>>
>>
>> Please define the word "subluxation".
>
>
>Rather than parrot the words of some great doctor that came before me,
>let me give you this link, if you're really interested. If you just
>want to test me, I can put it in my own words (and actually have if you
>read my post carefully).

Please do.

>
>http://www.chiro.org/LINKS/FULL/VERTEBRAL_SUBLUXATION_1.html
>
>
> > Please tell us how to reliably detect such a thing.
>
>Honestly, no problem. I do it everyday for a living. But consider
>first, posting the same 2 requests to a medical doctor and substituting
>the word disease for subluxation.

The words "disease" and "subluxation" are incommensurable. They are in
different knowledge domains. A better substitution would be "sign" or
"symptom".

I ask a chiropractor: "Please tell us how to reliably detect a
subluxation".

I ask a doctor: "Please tell us how to reliably detect a fever".

Unless you want us to believe that the subluxation is all of the
problem, not either a cause or an effect.

> Do you really want a comparable
>answer or are you trying to imply it can't be done. The purpose of 4
>years of chiropractic college is to learn to do just this. If you
>really want a description of the methodology, OK, but after finding a
>link to Barrett on your web site, I doubt you're really interested in an
>honest discussion.

Ah, the old "you know Barrett so I won't talk to you" form of
argument. I have links to chiropractors and Curezone as well.
--
Peter Bowditch aa #2243
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Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au
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To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com
From: Hyderman DC on

Peter Bowditch <myfirstname(a)ratbags.com> wrote in message
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> The Boom King <Boom!@spamsux.com> wrote:
>
> >Peter Bowditch wrote:
> >
> >> The Boom King <Boom!@spamsux.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>possibly developed by a medical professional who couldn't even define
the word
> >>>subluxation
> >>
> >>
> >> Please define the word "subluxation".
> >
> >
> >Rather than parrot the words of some great doctor that came before me,
> >let me give you this link, if you're really interested. If you just
> >want to test me, I can put it in my own words (and actually have if you
> >read my post carefully).
>
> Please do.
>
> >
> >http://www.chiro.org/LINKS/FULL/VERTEBRAL_SUBLUXATION_1.html
> >
> >
> > > Please tell us how to reliably detect such a thing.
> >
> >Honestly, no problem. I do it everyday for a living. But consider
> >first, posting the same 2 requests to a medical doctor and substituting
> >the word disease for subluxation.
>
> The words "disease" and "subluxation" are incommensurable. They are in
> different knowledge domains. A better substitution would be "sign" or
> "symptom".

Surely, a subluxation is a mechanical event between vertebrae, abnormal
motion for instance. It always has some neurological implications, but so
does any other physiological abberation.


>
> I ask a chiropractor: "Please tell us how to reliably detect a
> subluxation".
>
> I ask a doctor: "Please tell us how to reliably detect a fever".
>
> Unless you want us to believe that the subluxation is all of the
> problem, not either a cause or an effect.

Could be either. Or do you mean "all of the problem" in a philosohical
sense? If so, that notion is absurd, of course.


>
> > Do you really want a comparable
> >answer or are you trying to imply it can't be done. The purpose of 4
> >years of chiropractic college is to learn to do just this. If you
> >really want a description of the methodology, OK, but after finding a
> >link to Barrett on your web site, I doubt you're really interested in an
> >honest discussion.
>
> Ah, the old "you know Barrett so I won't talk to you" form of
> argument. I have links to chiropractors and Curezone as well.
> --
> Peter Bowditch aa #2243
> The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles
> Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au
> Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au
> To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com


From: Robert on

"Peter Bowditch" <myfirstname(a)ratbags.com> wrote in message
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> The Boom King <Boom!@spamsux.com> wrote:
>
> >Peter Bowditch wrote:
> >
> >> The Boom King <Boom!@spamsux.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>possibly developed by a medical professional who couldn't even define
the word
> >>>subluxation
> >>
> >>
> >> Please define the word "subluxation".
> >
> >
> >Rather than parrot the words of some great doctor that came before me,
> >let me give you this link, if you're really interested. If you just
> >want to test me, I can put it in my own words (and actually have if you
> >read my post carefully).
>
> Please do.
>
> >
> >http://www.chiro.org/LINKS/FULL/VERTEBRAL_SUBLUXATION_1.html
> >
> >
> > > Please tell us how to reliably detect such a thing.
> >
> >Honestly, no problem. I do it everyday for a living. But consider
> >first, posting the same 2 requests to a medical doctor and substituting
> >the word disease for subluxation.
>
> The words "disease" and "subluxation" are incommensurable. They are in
> different knowledge domains. A better substitution would be "sign" or
> "symptom".
>
> I ask a chiropractor: "Please tell us how to reliably detect a
> subluxation".
>
> I ask a doctor: "Please tell us how to reliably detect a fever".
>
Use a thermometer.


From: Peter Bowditch on
"Robert" <sabu77(a)comcast.net> wrote:

>
>"Peter Bowditch" <myfirstname(a)ratbags.com> wrote in message
>news:7cuf629e10ttjs0k19p50a7m4msc3rb3go(a)4ax.com...
>> The Boom King <Boom!@spamsux.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Peter Bowditch wrote:
>> >
>> >> The Boom King <Boom!@spamsux.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>possibly developed by a medical professional who couldn't even define
>the word
>> >>>subluxation
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Please define the word "subluxation".
>> >
>> >
>> >Rather than parrot the words of some great doctor that came before me,
>> >let me give you this link, if you're really interested. If you just
>> >want to test me, I can put it in my own words (and actually have if you
>> >read my post carefully).
>>
>> Please do.
>>
>> >
>> >http://www.chiro.org/LINKS/FULL/VERTEBRAL_SUBLUXATION_1.html
>> >
>> >
>> > > Please tell us how to reliably detect such a thing.
>> >
>> >Honestly, no problem. I do it everyday for a living. But consider
>> >first, posting the same 2 requests to a medical doctor and substituting
>> >the word disease for subluxation.
>>
>> The words "disease" and "subluxation" are incommensurable. They are in
>> different knowledge domains. A better substitution would be "sign" or
>> "symptom".
>>
>> I ask a chiropractor: "Please tell us how to reliably detect a
>> subluxation".
>>
>> I ask a doctor: "Please tell us how to reliably detect a fever".
>>
>Use a thermometer.
>

Precisely my point.
--
Peter Bowditch aa #2243
The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles
Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au
Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au
To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com