From: Mark Probert on
Max C. wrote:
> Mark Probert wrote:
>
>> A GOOD chiropractor will teach a patient back strengthening exercises,
>> and how to lift properly. One of my insurance company clients has a
>> retired chiropractor on staff who does just that at companies where
>> there are lots of back injuries. Saves lots of money, lost time, and
>> allows people to live normal lives.
>>
>> And...NO DOWNSIDE!
>
> Good Lord! The world is going to come to a screeching halt. I'm going
> to agree with Mark Probert!

Perhaps there is hope for you yet.

> The Boom King said it best. Chiropractics has been established as a
> reputable practice... but just like any other health care practitioner,
> some are more reputable than others. I have to say, 2 times a week for
> the rest of your life sounds more than a bit extreme... unless your job
> involves a lot of physical stress. But even then I would say only once
> a week at most.

It depends on the physical condition of the person. An uncle of mine had
several wives (consecutively) and the last had a daughter who was
married to a dock builder. This is one of the most physically demanding
jobs there is. The US DOL rates it as heavy work. While he was working,
he severely injured his back when he fell over 20 feet. He wound up
having surgery on two discs. After he went through very intensive
physical therapy (wife is a nurse at a hospital with a rehab wing) he
went back to work. He continued with home PT and alternate week
chiropractic and retired last year. At his retirement party his chiro
told me that if he had not been in near perfect physical condition, he
would never had recovered to where he could return to work.

> When I've injured my back, my chiropractor sees me 3 times a week for 2
> to 4 weeks. Then once a week for a month if necessary... and finally
> he'll recommend that I come back in 3 to 4 months for a follow up. All
> the while he's giving me information sheets on exercises I can do to
> prevent future injuries.

You should spend some time figuring out what you are doing wrong to
cause repeated injury. I do a lot of lifting of my son to and from his
wheelchair and, so far, have not had a significant problem. I learned
how to lift a very time ago, and I think that is what does it. I plan
every lift.

> Sounds like you got a doc that's trying to build a client base without
> enough clients.

On occasion one of my insurance company clients questions the frequency
of treatment a chiropractor is providing. We have set up a surveillance
camera outside of the chiropractors office and do a patient count. One
fellow was treating 30 patients an hour. He does not do workers
compensation any longer. Without that, a chiropractor in NY is out of
business.
From: vernon on

"Max C." <maxc246(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Freddy wrote:
>
>> Yet, I can show *you* a study actually published by the National
>> Chiropractic College in Chicago which shows the lifespan of the average
>> Chiropractor in the United States is a mean 3.2 years less than the
>> average
>> MD.
>
> I'd like to see that study. Show away.
>
> Max.
>

Most "Chiropractors" are not that rich and most practice strictly
manipulation and most come from poorer families than M.D.s.
The worst part is that a huge majority regularly go to M.D.s

So don't let the trash posting bother you. It proves nothing.


From: Hyderman DC on

"vernon" <there(a)there> wrote in message
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> "Max C." <maxc246(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>> Freddy wrote:
>>
>>> Yet, I can show *you* a study actually published by the National
>>> Chiropractic College in Chicago which shows the lifespan of the average
>>> Chiropractor in the United States is a mean 3.2 years less than the
>>> average
>>> MD.
>>
>> I'd like to see that study. Show away.
>>
>> Max.
>>
>
> Most "Chiropractors" are not that rich and most practice strictly
> manipulation and most come from poorer families than M.D.s.
> The worst part is that a huge majority regularly go to M.D.s
>
> So don't let the trash posting bother you. It proves nothing.

Its not a trash posting, vernon. It came from a chiropractor and is quite
legitimate. I can very many of the names on the obits listed in the study. I
can also assure you that I am an average Alberta chiropractor who does not
see 30 pts per hour and I am quite well off and healthy. My dad is 80 and
quite well off also.


From: vernon on

"Hyderman DC" <drsbh(a)REMOVE.telus.net> wrote in message
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> "vernon" <there(a)there> wrote in message
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>>
>> "Max C." <maxc246(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:1147464621.429479.125960(a)i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>>> Freddy wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yet, I can show *you* a study actually published by the National
>>>> Chiropractic College in Chicago which shows the lifespan of the average
>>>> Chiropractor in the United States is a mean 3.2 years less than the
>>>> average
>>>> MD.
>>>
>>> I'd like to see that study. Show away.
>>>
>>> Max.
>>>
>>
>> Most "Chiropractors" are not that rich and most practice strictly
>> manipulation and most come from poorer families than M.D.s.
>> The worst part is that a huge majority regularly go to M.D.s
>>
>> So don't let the trash posting bother you. It proves nothing.
>
> Its not a trash posting, vernon. It came from a chiropractor and is quite
> legitimate. I can very many of the names on the obits listed in the study.
> I can also assure you that I am an average Alberta chiropractor who does
> not see 30 pts per hour and I am quite well off and healthy. My dad is 80
> and quite well off also.

The implication of the post without further context left the impression that
Chiropractors knew less and were negative.
You say well off.
Do you think that the average chiropractor is as "well off" as the average
MD?

We are talking averages here.
I know poor, good MDs and extremely rich (and honest) Chiropractors.


From: Hyderman DC on

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> "Hyderman DC" <drsbh(a)REMOVE.telus.net> wrote in message
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>> "vernon" <there(a)there> wrote in message
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>>>
>>> "Max C." <maxc246(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>>>> Freddy wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yet, I can show *you* a study actually published by the National
>>>>> Chiropractic College in Chicago which shows the lifespan of the
>>>>> average
>>>>> Chiropractor in the United States is a mean 3.2 years less than the
>>>>> average
>>>>> MD.
>>>>
>>>> I'd like to see that study. Show away.
>>>>
>>>> Max.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Most "Chiropractors" are not that rich and most practice strictly
>>> manipulation and most come from poorer families than M.D.s.
>>> The worst part is that a huge majority regularly go to M.D.s
>>>
>>> So don't let the trash posting bother you. It proves nothing.
>>
>> Its not a trash posting, vernon. It came from a chiropractor and is quite
>> legitimate. I can very many of the names on the obits listed in the
>> study. I can also assure you that I am an average Alberta chiropractor
>> who does not see 30 pts per hour and I am quite well off and healthy. My
>> dad is 80 and quite well off also.
>
> The implication of the post without further context left the impression
> that Chiropractors knew less and were negative.
> You say well off.
> Do you think that the average chiropractor is as "well off" as the average
> MD?

Maybe not quite. Average incomes of chiropractors are a little bit below
MD's in the USA at least according to surveys. Up here, there is less
difference.
I didn't wish to imply that Chiropractors know less or are negative. Fact is
we don't live as long as MD's or the general population. The author assumed
it was because our old cliche was the issue. The issue may very well not be
that getting regular care (assuming most DC's get adjusted regularily) is
not associated with longevity, but rather the stats reflect the deleterious
nature of *giving* adjustments to others.
It was after all, just another study.


>
> We are talking averages here.
> I know poor, good MDs and extremely rich (and honest) Chiropractors.
>