From: Jason on
I control my sugars well with Metformin and Glyburide. Without Glyburide
and using only Metformin (on an ultra low-carb diet), my sugars run 115=120.
But all of this research about Glyburide causing cardiac events and burning
out my beta cells has me concerned. What could be another alternative to
Glyburide? Thanks


From: Jenny on
Jason wrote:
> I control my sugars well with Metformin and Glyburide. Without Glyburide
> and using only Metformin (on an ultra low-carb diet), my sugars run 115=120.
> But all of this research about Glyburide causing cardiac events and burning
> out my beta cells has me concerned. What could be another alternative to
> Glyburide? Thanks
>
>
Tolbutamide was the drug that the article I posted said was selective in
targeting the beta cells. It's an older drug and cheaper then amaryl,
but I don't know anything else about it.

It's still a sulf drug. There are also the newer drugs like Prandin
which supposedly only stimulate the beta cells in response to carbs.
They are shorter acting and might be kinder to the body. I don't really
know about that.

Beyond that, there are the glitazone drugs: Avandia and Actos, which are
supposed to reduce insulin resistance. Some people find them extremely
helpful along with metformin. Others, like myself, find that they cause
unacceptable water retention. If you can tolerate them, there's some
evidence that they may have a protective effect on beta cells, but they
are too new for it to be entirely clear how they work. The negative with
them is that they can cause weight gain, however if you use them with a
low carb diet, that may not be a problem.
From: W. Baker on
Jason <johndoe(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
: I control my sugars well with Metformin and Glyburide. Without Glyburide
: and using only Metformin (on an ultra low-carb diet), my sugars run 115=120.
: But all of this research about Glyburide causing cardiac events and burning
: out my beta cells has me concerned. What could be another alternative to
: Glyburide? Thanks

There are two shorter acting bta cell pushers, Prandin and Starliz, taken
right before meals that might work while putting less of a lead o the
pancres. They also don't give he appetiie increse tht tthe adding of
insulin form you pancreas all day can cause.

There are other modalities, like using Actos or Avandia, either of which
work to reduce insulin resistnce.

Wendy
From: old al on

Jason wrote:
> I control my sugars well with Metformin and Glyburide. Without Glyburide
> and using only Metformin (on an ultra low-carb diet), my sugars run 115=120.
> But all of this research about Glyburide causing cardiac events and burning
> out my beta cells has me concerned. What could be another alternative to
> Glyburide? Thanks

See Jenny's post for remarks on alternate beta stimulators (the
meglitinides Prandin and Starlix ).

If you want to avoid the beta stimulators, one sequence I have seen:

Start with metformin up to 2500 mg/day
Add Actos or Avandia if needed
Add insulin injections if needed

However, nowadays, there is Byetta (very expensive, injected
before meals) which can be slipped in before the insulin.

That sequence maximizes the amount of protection you can offer your
tired beta cells.

Regards
Old Al

From: Jefferson on
old al wrote:

> Add insulin injections if needed
>
> However, nowadays, there is Byetta (very expensive, injected
> before meals) which can be slipped in before the insulin.

The only person I know that uses Byetta came off of insulin after Byetta
therapy started. She happens to be a diabetic educator.

Frank
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