fish oil and cholesterol
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From: Jon McKee on 9 May 2006 06:13 I always thought that fish oils was good for cholesterol because of the fatty acids. But is also contains cholesterol (see http://www.food-info.net/uk/qa/qa-fp142.htm), even more than eggs... The site gives some info, but I don;t get it how it can be cholesterol lowering when it has so much of the stuff in it. help !
From: monty1945 on 9 May 2006 10:17 Most of the "experts" today are not familiar with the professional nutritional literature, for example, the book "Modern Nutrition in Health and Disease," by Shils and Young, or "Diet and Health," by the National Research Council. In the 7th edition of this book, on page 102, we learn that the "the "data certainly do not support the widely published assumption that n-3 fatty acids possess a specific retarding effect on atherogenesis... in rabbits at least, they seem to stimulate atherosclerosis." The animals had liver damage as well as "Periportal fibrosis, lipogranulomas filled with lipofuscin, and bile duct hyperplasia." The authors go on to say: "Other potentially harmful effects of 20:5 n-3 and 22:6 n-3 [that is, EPA and DHA] rich fish oils are neglected by the advocates of increased human consumption of fish oils. The pathologically increased bleeding times, as observed after aspirin ingestion, also occurs in Eskimos on a high fish oil diet." The authors then talk about "a promoting role of [EPA/DHA] in the development of carrdiac necrosis and an increased sensitivity to catecholamine stress." And then they state that extreme tocopherol ("vitamin E") deficiency occurs with fish oil supplementation. Another telling quotation: "...the most severe degree of atherosclerosis was observed in rabbits fed fish oil, with a similar trend in the [flax] oil group., rather than after feeding palm oil with its high concentration of palmitic and stearic acid [saturated fatty acids]." What they are talking about when they say that fish oil is "healthy" is that it inhibits the metabolization of AA, but you don't need AA in your body at all, and saying that fish oil is healthy in this context is like saying that the patient died but the operation was successful. Don't be fooled by the snake oil salesmen who are now hawking the fish oil.
From: Jim Chinnis on 9 May 2006 11:03 Jon McKee <jmmckee(a)hotmail.com> wrote in part: >I always thought that fish oils was good for cholesterol because of >the fatty acids. But is also contains cholesterol (see >http://www.food-info.net/uk/qa/qa-fp142.htm), even more than eggs... >The site gives some info, but I don;t get it how it can be cholesterol >lowering when it has so much of the stuff in it. > >help ! Fish oil does not lower cholesterol. It lowers triglycerides, and may increase HDL cholesterol. You can easily buy fish oil that has had the cholesterol removed.. -- Jim Chinnis Warrenton, Virginia, USA jchinnis(a)alum.mit.edu
From: Kev on 9 May 2006 11:52 For a good summary on the uses, mechanisms, and research, see: http://pdrhealth.com/drug_info/nmdrugprofiles/nutsupdrugs/eic_0104.shtml http://pdrhealth.com/drug_info/nmdrugprofiles/nutsupdrugs/fis_0106.shtml In article <4mb162tgdpkdmbm54v0j9hh172qhmuam0h(a)4ax.com>, Jim Chinnis <jchinnis(a)alum.mit.edu> wrote: > Jon McKee <jmmckee(a)hotmail.com> wrote in part: > > >I always thought that fish oils was good for cholesterol because of > >the fatty acids. But is also contains cholesterol (see > >http://www.food-info.net/uk/qa/qa-fp142.htm), even more than eggs... > >The site gives some info, but I don;t get it how it can be cholesterol > >lowering when it has so much of the stuff in it. > > > >help ! > > Fish oil does not lower cholesterol. It lowers triglycerides, and may > increase HDL cholesterol. > > You can easily buy fish oil that has had the cholesterol removed.. > -- > Jim Chinnis Warrenton, Virginia, USA jchinnis(a)alum.mit.edu
From: Alf Christophersen on 9 May 2006 20:05
On 9 May 2006 07:17:28 -0700, monty1945(a)lycos.com wrote: >What they are talking about when they say that fish oil is "healthy" is >that it inhibits the metabolization of AA, but you don't need AA in >your body at all, and saying that fish oil is healthy in this context >is like saying that the patient died but the operation was successful. Without AA in your cells a nosebleeding will turn out completely fatal at first try. |