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From: Trinkwasser on 16 Jun 2008 14:26 On Sun, 15 Jun 2008 00:36:33 +0100, "Peter Larsen" <digilyd(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >Trinkwasser wrote: > >> It may be even simpler than that, they don't like the internet . . . > >The white brethren indeed dislike the internet .... it undermines their >information monopoly. They have even made survey(s) showing that patients >with internet information use to them appear as feeling more sick than >patients without. Yes but they don't seem to take notice of the people who get significantly better through reading what other people who get significantly better do Fortunately some of the younger generation of medics seem more attuned than the older ones, probably because they use it themselves. My usual line when they warn me about the "dangers of the internet" is that true, there are many sources of bullshit but you can also read the original papers in the original gibberish <G> And there is much review of the contents of posts and websites
From: Trinkwasser on 16 Jun 2008 14:33 On Sun, 15 Jun 2008 21:15:08 +0100, Nicky <ukc802466929(a)btconnect.com> wrote: >On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 21:57:43 -0600, Tiger_Lily <me(a)privacy.net> wrote: > >>what doesn't make sense to me is that byetta costs $165 US/mo >> >>depending on how much Levemir a type 2 takes, they can easily top >>$142/mo for Levemir >> >>then, there is an additional $90/mo for Humalog (again depending on doses) >> >>my dose levels are not as high as a typical type 2 dose level would be, >>and i have given my insulin costs > >Oh yes. The reason there's so little use of it round our way is that >the PCT is heavily in debt and trying not to use any newfangled drugs. >Scratch our local top endo and he'll go through, in deeply bitter >depth, exactly the kind of exercise you've just done - and will then >go on to give his estimates of in-patient care savings if he could put >people on Byetta for his hand-picked 15 or so patients who would >benefit the most - and the PCT still won't play. > >The handful he has on it are as a result of trialling it, and this >story is almost crazier - he's allowed to see these people 3 times a >year, and NO MORE. Even when they started on byetta, he was allowed to >suggest to them that they started on 5ml and titrated up; but he >wasn't allowed to have them in the office, review their numbers, and >work something out with them. Totally barmy. Well they're diabetics you know, they brought it on themselves and they're going to need amputations anyway so why waste money on them when there are accountants out of work? <fume> Seen it in industry, spending pounds to save pennies, now watch it in the NHS oh you already did
From: Patti on 17 Jun 2008 14:59 >You bin peeking, I'm gunner unplug that camera :-) > >Probably they don't want anyone thinking that they are NOT infallible >and the font of all wisdom, eat yer chip buttie and take yer pills. ROTFL on both counts Rod! Patti Hba1c 5.5 On Levemir and Novorapid + meds for BP and thyroid Join us at http://www.diabetes-support.org.uk "The friendly forum!"
From: Patti on 17 Jun 2008 14:59 >You bin peeking, I'm gunner unplug that camera :-) > >Probably they don't want anyone thinking that they are NOT infallible >and the font of all wisdom, eat yer chip buttie and take yer pills. But that pale grey vest shows off the suntan so well Alan! Patti Hba1c 5.5 On Levemir and Novorapid + meds for BP and thyroid Join us at http://www.diabetes-support.org.uk "The friendly forum!"
From: Patti on 17 Jun 2008 15:01
>The white brethren indeed dislike the internet .... it undermines their >information monopoly. They have even made survey(s) showing that patients >with internet information use to them appear as feeling more sick than >patients without. How very very odd that is! Well, heavens.... I thought I bounced in telling the white bretheren how wonderful I felt due to the education I was getting that they weren't dispersing to my fellow Ds locally! Patti Hba1c 5.5 On Levemir and Novorapid + meds for BP and thyroid Join us at http://www.diabetes-support.org.uk "The friendly forum!" |