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From: Peter Larsen on 14 Jun 2008 19:36 Alan S wrote: > On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 08:45:28 +0100, "Peter Larsen" > <digilyd(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> Opinions: What to do now? - parlando Byetta again or hope to >> maintain course and that weight loss alone will do? > Apart from Byetta, what have you been doing regarding d&e? I already move around more every day than the knee I injured last december cares for. > When do you test? Randomly, all tests are about as much higher than what corresponded with HbAlc 6.5 as the HbAlc suggests, 5.x after work rather than 4.x etc. > Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia I always appreciate your commments Alan, even though I don't always like them ... in this context one needs the comments one doesn't like, thanks for nagging ... Kind regards Peter Larsen
From: Peter Larsen on 14 Jun 2008 19:36 Trinkwasser wrote: > It may be even simpler than that, they don't like the internet . . . The white brethren indeed dislike the internet .... it undermines their information monopoly. They have even made survey(s) showing that patients with internet information use to them appear as feeling more sick than patients without. Kind regards Peter Larsen
From: Nick Cramer on 14 Jun 2008 22:02 "Peter Larsen" <digilyd(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > Alan S wrote: > > On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 08:45:28 +0100, "Peter Larsen" > > [ . . . ] > I always appreciate your commments Alan, even though I don't always like > them ... in this context one needs the comments one doesn't like, thanks > for nagging ... Alan is one of my favorite people on the *.diabetes.com groups. Even when he sees from one of my posts that my behavior is killing me, the harshest he's said was, "Good luck!" -- Nick. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their families! I've known US vets who served as far back as the Spanish American War. They are all my heroes! Thank a Veteran and Support Our Troops. You are not forgotten. Thanks ! ! ~Semper Fi~
From: Tiger_Lily on 14 Jun 2008 23:57 Andy Hall wrote: > On 2008-06-14 04:45:42 +0100, Tiger_Lily <me(a)privacy.net> said: >>> >> NICE states that a goal of 6.5 A1c is optimal >> >> i'd go in ready to fight tooth and nail for byetta >> >> good luck! > > The trouble is that I really wonder whether one can trust what they say > on a clinical basis, Kate. I'm not sure what data, some of which > would have to be long term, there is to justify the figure. > > Another explanation is that the figure is arrived at based on how many > or what proportion of patients are needed to be in "good control" in > order to meet performance targets. Adjusting the acceptable HbA1c > figure is a way to achieve that. Of course, I am never cynical. > > Considering that Peter lives in an even high tax environment than we do > in the UK, I'd be going for the throat also. > > > > what doesn't make sense to me is that byetta costs $165 US/mo depending on how much Levemir a type 2 takes, they can easily top $142/mo for Levemir then, there is an additional $90/mo for Humalog (again depending on doses) my dose levels are not as high as a typical type 2 dose level would be, and i have given my insulin costs -- kate type 1 since 1987 www.diabetic-talk.org http://www.diabetes-support.org.uk/newly%20diagnosed.html
From: RodS on 15 Jun 2008 02:12
Patti wrote: >> It may be even simpler than that, they don't like the internet . . . > > True... of course everyone knows it's full of perverts sitting in > basements wearing only a vest, don't they???? You bin peeking, I'm gunner unplug that camera :-) Probably they don't want anyone thinking that they are NOT infallible and the font of all wisdom, eat yer chip buttie and take yer pills. (- -) =m=(_)=m= RodS T2 Australia Couldn't possibly be > educated folks on there could there? > Patti > Hba1c 5.5 > On Levemir and Novorapid + meds for BP and thyroid > Join us at http://www.diabetes-support.org.uk "The friendly forum!" |