From: Cindy Wells on
"Julie Bove" <juliebove(a)verizon.net> wrote in
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> <guys(a)consolidated.net> wrote in message
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>>
>> I have seen many actually load up on some diet food.
>> which defeats the diet's purpose. you
>> cannot fool mother nature. ---- People very
>> easily
>
> What do you mean by "diet" food? One can eat a ton of lettuce and it
> isn't going to add up to very many calories.


I suspect he means those products marketed as diet food (low fat
processed foods for example) or in many diet programs that have their
"buy our food" requirement. The "diet" portion of the meal isn't
satisfying so they have twice or three times the listed portion of that
processed food.

I find more problems with the dieting plans that have you skip normal
foods to eat tuna fish and apple sauce (or whatever weird "eat only
this") for two weeks. Then the usual response is to binge on the
forbidden foods.

Cindy Wells
(in college, I saw a bunch of stupid dieting. However, I haven't gotten
anyone to come to my wonderful "gym alternative". It's tough to find
people who want to work on a hay farm (aerobic exercise, weight training
and weight loss likely). Even our primary tractor operator can't eat
enough to maintain weight during the haying period. Working on the
ground can have me hitting 10,000 steps around noon when I can safely
wear the pedometer (not when I'm handling bales).)
From: guys on
On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 11:15:00 GMT, RodS <fred(a)fred.com> wrote:

>Ozgirl wrote:
>> RodS wrote:
>>> Ozgirl wrote:
>>>> Cheri wrote:
>>>>> guys(a)consolidated.net wrote in message ...
>>>>>> A good diet might be to only eat foods you hate.
>>>>> If you only ate food you hate, then it couldn't be a *good* diet. No
>>>>> reason for anybody to eat foods they hate, wise choices of foods you
>>>>> like is a much better plan. :-)
>>>>
>>>> Could be successful weight-wise though ;) I mean how much tripe,
>>>> haggis or other equally atrocious (lol) foods could one eat?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Yeah horrible yucky stuff like broccoli :-)
>>
>>
>> I could live on broccoli.
>>
>WOW you must get giant stuff down your way we only get the normal sized
>stuff up here:-)
>
> (- -)
>=m=(_)=m=
>RodS T2
>Australia
>
>This is a good ssue to discuss in a light way.

A city Manager I used to know was trim and in his late fifties.
He said he took his plate, put a potion of all of the foods on the
table, ate it and left the table.

When a person is in constant pain or plain lonely, They seem to
eat too much. All we can do here is reinforce the eat less thing.

That has a problem in creating guilt in some. Where is Solomon?


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From: Cheri on
That's cute, I hadn't seen that before.


hemyd wrote in message
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>The following diet is designed to help you cope with the stress that
builds
>up during the holidays.
>Breakfast:
>- � grapefruit
>- 1 slice whole wheat toast
>- 8 oz. skim milk
>Lunch:
>- 4 oz. lean broiled chicken breast
>- 1 cup steamed spinach
>- 1 cup herb tea
>- 1 Oreo cookie
>Mid-Afternoon snack:
>- The rest of Oreos in the package
>- 2 pints Rocky Road ice cream nuts, cherries and whipped cream 1
>- jar hot fudge sauce
>Dinner:
>- 2 loaves garlic bread
>- 4 cans or 1 large pitcher Coke
>- 1 large sausage, mushroom and cheese pizza
>- 3 Snickers bars
>Late Evening News:
>- Entire frozen Sara Lee cheesecake (eaten directly from freezer)
>RULES FOR THIS DIET:
>1. If you eat something and no one sees you eat it, it has no
calories.
>2. If you drink a diet soda with a candy bar, the calories in the
candy bar
>are cancelled out by the diet soda.
>3. When you eat with someone else, calories don't count if you do not
eat
>more than they do.
>4. Food used for medicinal purposes NEVER count, such as hot
chocolate,
>brandy, toast and Sara Lee Cheesecake.
>5. If you fatten up everyone else around you, then you look thinner.
>6. Movie related foods do not have additional calories because they
are part
>of the entertainment package and not part of one's personal fuel.
Examples:
>Milk Duds, buttered popcorn, Junior Mints, Red Hots and Tootsie
Rolls.
>7. Cookie pieces contain no calories. The process of breaking causes
calorie
>leakage.
>8. Things licked off knives and spoons have no calories if you are in
the
>process of preparing something.
>9. Foods that have the same color have the same number of calories.
Examples
>are: spinach and pistachio ice cream; mushrooms and mashed potatoes.
>10. Chocolate is a universal color and may be substituted for any
other food
>color.
>11. Anything consumed while standing has no calories. This due to
gravity
>and the density of the caloric mass.
>12. Anything consumed from someone else's plate has no calories since
the
>calories rightfully belong to the other person and will cling to
his/her
>plate. (We ALL know how calories like to cling!)
>REMEMBER: STRESSED SPELLED BACKWARDS IS DESSERTS
>
>An oldie.......
>
>Henry Mydlarz
>
>


From: hemyd on
"Cindy Wells" <lcwells8892(a)netscape.net> wrote in message
news:Xns9ADF66C09EA31JSrrwellsnscktnet(a)216.196.97.142...
> I suspect he means those products marketed as diet food (low fat
> processed foods for example) or in many diet programs that have their
> "buy our food" requirement. The "diet" portion of the meal isn't
> satisfying so they have twice or three times the listed portion of that
> processed food.
>
> I find more problems with the dieting plans that have you skip normal
> foods to eat tuna fish and apple sauce (or whatever weird "eat only
> this") for two weeks. Then the usual response is to binge on the
> forbidden foods.
>
> Cindy Wells
> (in college, I saw a bunch of stupid dieting. However, I haven't gotten
> anyone to come to my wonderful "gym alternative". It's tough to find
> people who want to work on a hay farm (aerobic exercise, weight training
> and weight loss likely). Even our primary tractor operator can't eat
> enough to maintain weight during the haying period. Working on the
> ground can have me hitting 10,000 steps around noon when I can safely
> wear the pedometer (not when I'm handling bales).)

Since I was diagnose Type 2 I've believed that "the input must match the
output" - the food you eat must be contered with an equivalent workout (at
work I often joke that even as a diabetic I could eat a large pizza - but
that I would have to ride 50 - 60 miles on my bicycle to work it off).

In my more carefree, more "eat what you want and how much you want" days
before I was diagnosed, when I had already unknowingly developed diabetes,
what I believe saved my goose (getting complications) is lifting hundreds
of heavy bricks, hauling buckets of concrete and digging scores of post
holes and stump holes.

Needless to say, I haven't had a pizza since before I was
diagnosed............ I would need to do more riding than I'm prepared to
do, Cindy!

Many "weight reduction programs" are sold on a "eat what you want" and
"don't work hard" implication, to take people in...... I don't think such a
"quick fix" exists.

Henry Mydlarz.


From: hemyd on
<guys(a)consolidated.net> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 11:15:00 GMT, RodS <fred(a)fred.com> wrote:
>
>>Ozgirl wrote:
>>> RodS wrote:
>>>> Ozgirl wrote:
>>>>> Cheri wrote:
>>>>>> guys(a)consolidated.net wrote in message ...
>>>>>>> A good diet might be to only eat foods you hate.
>>>>>> If you only ate food you hate, then it couldn't be a *good* diet. No
>>>>>> reason for anybody to eat foods they hate, wise choices of foods you
>>>>>> like is a much better plan. :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Could be successful weight-wise though ;) I mean how much tripe,
>>>>> haggis or other equally atrocious (lol) foods could one eat?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Yeah horrible yucky stuff like broccoli :-)
>>>
>>>
>>> I could live on broccoli.
>>>
>>WOW you must get giant stuff down your way we only get the normal sized
>>stuff up here:-)
>>
>> (- -)
>>=m=(_)=m=
>>RodS T2
>>Australia
>>
>>This is a good ssue to discuss in a light way.
>
> A city Manager I used to know was trim and in his late fifties.
> He said he took his plate, put a potion of all of the foods on the
> table, ate it and left the table.
>
> When a person is in constant pain or plain lonely, They seem to
> eat too much. All we can do here is reinforce the eat less thing.
>
> That has a problem in creating guilt in some. Where is Solomon?
>
>
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I have a workmate - a good friend - in his early 40s. He has an extremely
stressful job. So he eats more than he knows he should, despite being very
much aware of the consequences.

Henry Mydlarz.