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From: Pouta on 3 Aug 2008 23:25
major $$$ more than "regular" creatine...

supposedly more bioavailable & retained longer in the body...

comments ?
From: Tom Anderson on 4 Aug 2008 06:39
On Sun, 3 Aug 2008, Pouta wrote:

> major $$$ more than "regular" creatine...
>
> supposedly more bioavailable & retained longer in the body...
>
> comments ?

It's rubbish. It's actually less acid-stable than normal creatine:

http://pogue972.blogspot.com/2007/06/new-lab-studies-show-creatine-ethyl.html

And there isn't a shred of evidence that it has any advantage over it.

tom

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From: myancov on 5 Aug 2008 15:41
CEE is patented -- thus, the mfr.'s of creatine monohydrate (who don't
want to pay for the licensing to make CEE) will knock CEE any which
way they can.

esterification is a proven means to make water-soluble nutrients more
bio-available.

this has been empirically proven in the case of Vitamin C versus
Ester-C.

it is simply a matter of time before the evidence shows this to be the
case with CEE as well...
From: Tom Anderson on 5 Aug 2008 19:32
On Tue, 5 Aug 2008, myancov(a)gmail.com wrote:

> CEE is patented -- thus, the mfr.'s of creatine monohydrate (who don't
> want to pay for the licensing to make CEE) will knock CEE any which
> way they can.

Whereas the CEE peddlers are going to be wholesome and truthful?

> esterification is a proven means to make water-soluble nutrients more
> bio-available.
>
> this has been empirically proven in the case of Vitamin C versus
> Ester-C.

Ester-C is not actually a vitamin C ester. Vitamin C esters are not
actually any better than straight vitamin C, because they hydrolyse as
soon as they hit the stomach acid.

On the bright side, you are actually an idiot. So at least we have one
positive result!

> it is simply a matter of time before the evidence shows this to be the
> case with CEE as well...

Except the evidence is already in, and shows the exact opposite.

NEXT.

tom

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that particular computations are possible, expressed in a formal system
called a programming language - are utterly meaningless. To write a
computer program you have to come to terms with this, to accept that
whatever you might want the program to mean, the machine will blindly
follow its meaningless rules and come to some meaningless conclusion. --
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From: Pouta on 20 Aug 2008 23:48
> Except the evidence is already in, and shows the exact opposite.

who's evidence ?

the mfr.'s of creatine monohydrate
(who don't want to pay for the licensing to make CEE)

??

you sir, would make P.T. Barnum proud !
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