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From: Take The Chip* on 20 Mar 2006 01:05 I have a chronic dislocating shoulder stemming back to when I got hit by a car while a pedestrian in my youth. I was doing some fairly serious weight training a few years back which was successful as far as muscle building goes, but caused further damage to my shoulder joint to the point where it pops out regularily. I am living on a very modest income at the moment and can't afford traditional therapies or surgury. I was wondering if someone could assist me in finding information on therapeutic things I can do on my own. Thanks in advance!
From: McPervert on 20 Mar 2006 07:09 On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 06:05:45 GMT, "Take The Chip*" <takethechip42(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I am living on a very modest income at the moment and can't afford >traditional therapies or surgury. I was wondering if someone could assist me >in finding information on therapeutic things I can do on my own. Thanks in >advance! > Tie a 100' rope to your arm, tie the other to a car. Have your wife get in the car and floor it. Problem solved.
From: Steve Freides on 20 Mar 2006 10:51 "Take The Chip*" <takethechip42(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:ZCrTf.163451$B94.15028(a)pd7tw3no... >I have a chronic dislocating shoulder stemming back to when I got hit >by a car while a pedestrian in my youth. I was doing some fairly >serious weight training a few years back which was successful as far as >muscle building goes, but caused further damage to my shoulder joint to >the point where it pops out regularily. > > I am living on a very modest income at the moment and can't afford > traditional therapies or surgury. I was wondering if someone could > assist me in finding information on therapeutic things I can do on my > own. Thanks in advance! Your first step should be a visit with a competent physician to obtain a diagnosis and a suggested course of treatment. However. ... There is plenty to read on the Internet. Try searching "shoulder rehab" and similar expressions. Lots of exercises you can try and guidelines to follow. If your "fairly serious weight training" included bench pressing, I would cross that off your list - try some light overhead dumbbell presses instead. You might look into the book, "Super Joints" by Pavel as well, see http://www.kbnj.com/sj.htm - lots of good joint-health routines in there but please be aware they are not rehab routines, just things to keep your joints moving freely. -S- http://www.kbnj.com
From: Take The Chip* on 20 Mar 2006 11:42 "Steve Freides" <steve(a)fridayscomputer.com> wrote in message news:4881bdFinfpsU1(a)individual.net... > "Take The Chip*" <takethechip42(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > news:ZCrTf.163451$B94.15028(a)pd7tw3no... >>I have a chronic dislocating shoulder stemming back to when I got hit by a >>car while a pedestrian in my youth. I was doing some fairly serious weight >>training a few years back which was successful as far as muscle building >>goes, but caused further damage to my shoulder joint to the point where it >>pops out regularily. >> >> I am living on a very modest income at the moment and can't afford >> traditional therapies or surgury. I was wondering if someone could assist >> me in finding information on therapeutic things I can do on my own. >> Thanks in advance! > > Your first step should be a visit with a competent physician to obtain a > diagnosis and a suggested course of treatment. However. ... > > There is plenty to read on the Internet. Try searching "shoulder rehab" > and similar expressions. Lots of exercises you can try and guidelines to > follow. > > If your "fairly serious weight training" included bench pressing, I would > cross that off your list - try some light overhead dumbbell presses > instead. You might look into the book, "Super Joints" by Pavel as well, > see http://www.kbnj.com/sj.htm - lots of good joint-health routines in > there but please be aware they are not rehab routines, just things to keep > your joints moving freely. > > -S- > http://www.kbnj.com Thanks for your response. I consulted a shoulder expert for x-rays and diagnosis. He confirmed what I already knew (chronic anterior dislocation) and suggested sports medicine experts (which cost big money) for therapy and if that fails, surgery.
From: Steve Freides on 20 Mar 2006 11:57
"Take The Chip*" <takethechip42(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:mYATf.162908$H%4.137278(a)pd7tw2no... > > "Steve Freides" <steve(a)fridayscomputer.com> wrote in message > news:4881bdFinfpsU1(a)individual.net... >> "Take The Chip*" <takethechip42(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:ZCrTf.163451$B94.15028(a)pd7tw3no... >>>I have a chronic dislocating shoulder stemming back to when I got hit >>>by a car while a pedestrian in my youth. I was doing some fairly >>>serious weight training a few years back which was successful as far >>>as muscle building goes, but caused further damage to my shoulder >>>joint to the point where it pops out regularily. >>> >>> I am living on a very modest income at the moment and can't afford >>> traditional therapies or surgury. I was wondering if someone could >>> assist me in finding information on therapeutic things I can do on >>> my own. Thanks in advance! >> >> Your first step should be a visit with a competent physician to >> obtain a diagnosis and a suggested course of treatment. However. ... >> >> There is plenty to read on the Internet. Try searching "shoulder >> rehab" and similar expressions. Lots of exercises you can try and >> guidelines to follow. >> >> If your "fairly serious weight training" included bench pressing, I >> would cross that off your list - try some light overhead dumbbell >> presses instead. You might look into the book, "Super Joints" by >> Pavel as well, see http://www.kbnj.com/sj.htm - lots of good >> joint-health routines in there but please be aware they are not rehab >> routines, just things to keep your joints moving freely. >> >> -S- >> http://www.kbnj.com > > > > Thanks for your response. I consulted a shoulder expert for x-rays and > diagnosis. He confirmed what I already knew (chronic anterior > dislocation) and suggested sports medicine experts (which cost big > money) for therapy and if that fails, surgery. In your place, I think I'd stick with strategies that tighten up the problem area in the shoulder, and I'd consider alternatives to weights, e.g., yoga. I'd also look into flexibility issues - it may be that a tightness elsewhere around the shoulder predisposes you to these chronic dislocations. Again, I'm not a doctor, but it seems a reasonable line of thinking to pursue. An overhead squatting type of movement, even if it's only with a stick or an empty bar, can help here. For weights, I've had good results for myself and for others with a simple overhead press. Look up the "Arnold Press" on exrx.net or elsewhere and try it with a very light weight, but try it standing and one arm at a time. It's a nice movement because it works a lot of things at once, and doing it standing and one arm at a time will allow your body to find a good groove for each shoulder. The focus should be on keeping the shoulder firmly in the socket while pressing - I find thinking about pressing both up and down from my elbow works for me in this regard. Try it with a very light weight for a few reps and see how it makes you feel. Eventually you want to work for both strength and flexibility by finishing with the weight directly over your shoulder - at the beginning most people press the weight to the side and to the front somewhat. I do mine with kettlebells but the basic concept is the same. The combination of an overhead press and an overhead squat seems a pretty complete one to me in terms of both strength and flexibility for the shoulder and upper back. Take it slow and easy and see what you can accomplish. I'm not a sports medicine expert nor a doctor of any kind, but I've shown this exercise to quite a few people, including some with shoulder problems, and all report liking the movement and feeling it helps. Last but not least, I don't know what your insurance situation is, but there might be an insurance plan you could get on which would cover the cost of the sport medicine specialists if they're recommended by your primary physician - I know that's the way mine works, and if your main doctor feels the specialist is the only viable route for you, he may be able to convince your insurance to pay for it. Good luck to you. -S- http://www.kbnj.com |