From: Chris on


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[Any man that's good enough to support a child is good enough to have
custody of such child]

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"DB" <DeeBee(a)netscape.net> wrote in message
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> "Bob W" <robertg(a)teleport.com> wrote in message
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> > "DB" <DeeBee(a)netscape.net> wrote in message
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> >> "Bob W" <robertg(a)teleport.com> wrote in
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> >>> Also your original post noted your GF has enough money to build a
> >>> college education fund and provide private tutoring, two items that
are
> >>> never covered by CS awards. You got challenged because your comments
> >>> indicate she has plenty of money to pay for the child's basic child
> >>> rearing expenditures plus pay for extras like college funding and
> >>> tutoring. It came off as her sounding greedy.
> >>
> >> Actually Bob, I don't even think she knows he's on here asking about
> >> starting trouble in China!
> >> He barely knows this woman and thinks he's going to act in her best
> >> interest.
> >>
> >> The fact that he has a daughter and dating other women who he brings
into
> >> her life shows that he's morally corrupt and don't hold many values.
> >> Sending money for CS is not proof of morals, the law tells him to do
it!
> >
> > There is another aspect of this the OP needs to understand. If his GF
> > cannot get any CS money from her ex who now resides in China, if the BF
> > knocks her up and she claims it's an "Oops", he will be the next
financial
> > meal ticket for her future who is very reachable by the courts.
>
> This guy is a sucker for sure, i can here it already, "me Luv you long
> time, me have babies for you, you give me plenty money!".
>
> Maybe he doesn't understand that she takes pride in herself and doesn't
want
> to depend on any man for her son's well being? he's here to save the day,
> what an idiot!

GEE, ya think? :)

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From: DB on

"Tomcat" <tom_overton_1968(a)yahoo.com> wrote in

> So you can go on having fun in the new playground you built in your
imagination, it's actually a very entertaining clown act to watch!

I'm not the one here looking for a hand out!

Anyone that would support a government system designed to extort money from
men that can't afford it, is a clown!
If she wants money, why not just write the man and send him a picture of his
son?


From: DB on

"Phil" <faas(a)mindspring.com> wrote in

> Most are simply ignorant, not having been through it themselves and
> relying solely on the word of only one of the combatants. You appear to
> fall into that category. You should also be aware that some courts have
> awarded child support for step-children (non-adopted ones) once these men
> married the mother who later decided to remove them just like the first,
> second or third ones. This could very well be you in a few short years.

It's the "It will never happen to me" attitude that prevents people from
realizing the real peril that every man is in!

Much like cancer, nobody cares about it until it directly affects them, and
then they wonder why more isn't done to cure the problem.

He says he's a professional and money doesn't effect him, how little he
knows that if his ex decides to take him to family court, they will take 30%
of his income and have direct access to all of his bank accounts and assets.

In this day and age when many banks and professions are closing their doors,
he should pray that he never loses his job!
Most people are 3 paychecks from living on the street, the kourts think this
isn't true! LOL



From: DB on

"Chris" <reddd(a)juno.com> wrote in

> **********************
>
> And if this "deadbeat" escapes such oppression, MORE power to him!
> [For what it's worth, sad day indeed when a man has to take sanctuary in
> CHINA (of all places) to escape oppression in AmeriKa.]
>
> ********************


LOL And AmeriKA is frighting to bring their idea of Freedom to all 3rd world
countries!


From: Tomcat on
On Sep 10, 9:36 am, "Phil" <f...(a)mindspring.com> wrote:
> **************************************************
> No, it is not uncommon for the 'next man' to come here in defense of a
> situation that is fraught with double standards and side with the
> legislated sexism that exists in the realm of custody and child support.
> Most are simply ignorant, not having been through it themselves and
> relying solely on the word of only one of the combatants. You appear to
> fall into that category.

That's fine and I will respect everybody's opinion here that the
current child support system has many problem areas and sides with the
mother. I know I have a differing opinion because I came in
advocating the collection of child support from a father. I just am
having trouble figuring out what type of answer to all this you guys
have? Instead of explaining in a rational way what you believe the
solutions are, most here are instead engaging in an Ad Hominem attack
against me and making up all kinds of fictional scenarios about my
situation and trying to turn this into one big Jerry Springer
episode.

I agree there are many problems with the system. I agree that men
often get the short end of the stick. I agree mothers often abuse CS
funds and use the system to get a free lunch. But I just don't see
how some of the problems can be avoided. To ensure children really
benefit from CS payments you would have to hire literaly an army of
social workers and government agents to monitor the spending of each
CS dollar. The fact is there is just no way to do it. So the next
solution is to simply end CS all together and rely on the "free
market" system and hope fathers pay their share of what they should.
Are you saying that is the ultimate solution? I think we could target
problem areas in the CS system (make it easier to adjust father's
payments if he loses job, more accurate calculation of fair CS
payment, etc) without abandoning CS completely.











You should also be aware that some courts have
> awarded child support for step-children (non-adopted ones) once these
> men married the mother who later decided to remove them just like the
> first, second or third ones. This could very well be you in a few short
> years.
> What you are reading here is not a "imagination" but facts based in
> everyday occurrences in "family courts" across the nation. Ignore it at
> the risk of your own peril.
> Phil #3