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From: Bob W on 9 Sep 2008 19:54 "Tomcat" <tom_overton_1968(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:d288b851-d283-445f-bee6-56245a669fa7(a)34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com... On Sep 9, 11:28 am, "Bob W" <robe...(a)teleport.com> wrote: > "Tomcat" <tom_overton_1...(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message > > news:de88eda3-9513-4a3c-b014-327f431e49b8(a)i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... > > > My girlfriend's ex is Chinese and he moved back to China. I think > > he's a dual citizen. Is there a way to collect child support from > > him? They were divorced here in the U.S. with child support required > > in the decree. I would assume collecting it now would be a very long > > and tedious process, especially considering the fact it's China we're > > talking about. Its just sad that he can run back to a country > > experiencing extreme economic growith and become a millionaire while > > his son is here suffering financially. > > International CS cases are managed under treatises. It all depends on > whether your country has a CS treaty agreement with China or not. > > Why are you getting involved in a private matter between the child's > mother > and father? My advice would be to butt out! How is simply asking a general question on a newsgroup, as a friend and lover of another person, "getting involved in a private matter"? It's not like I'm ordering her around, demanding to see every detail of her divorce papers and telling her what to do.. I'm just curious as to how international CS cases work and thought I'd try to get some insight so I could be more educated and understand things more. Is that going too far? Thanks for the response though :) ======= We get a lot of boyfriends coming into this newsgroup trying to be the new baby daddy hero who rescues their girlfriend and helps her get CS. We always react the same way - Butt out, the money is for the children not to make the BF/GF living arrangement easier. Also your original post noted your GF has enough money to build a college education fund and provide private tutoring, two items that are never covered by CS awards. You got challenged because your comments indicate she has plenty of money to pay for the child's basic child rearing expenditures plus pay for extras like college funding and tutoring. It came off as her sounding greedy. My response is still the same. If she lives in the U.S. the only way she can collect on an international CS order is if there is a treaty with China. I did a Google search and found there is no such treaty in place. The Chinese do not honor any judgment orders out of U.S. courts.
From: DB on 9 Sep 2008 22:35 "Bob W" <robertg(a)teleport.com> wrote in > Also your original post noted your GF has enough money to build a college > education fund and provide private tutoring, two items that are never > covered by CS awards. You got challenged because your comments indicate > she has plenty of money to pay for the child's basic child rearing > expenditures plus pay for extras like college funding and tutoring. It > came off as her sounding greedy. Actually Bob, I don't even think she knows he's on here asking about starting trouble in China! He barely knows this woman and thinks he's going to act in her best interest. The fact that he has a daughter and dating other women who he brings into her life shows that he's morally corrupt and don't hold many values. Sending money for CS is not proof of morals, the law tells him to do it!
From: Bob W on 9 Sep 2008 23:15 "DB" <DeeBee(a)netscape.net> wrote in message news:JnGxk.20852$cW3.8780(a)nlpi064.nbdc.sbc.com... > > "Bob W" <robertg(a)teleport.com> wrote in > >> Also your original post noted your GF has enough money to build a college >> education fund and provide private tutoring, two items that are never >> covered by CS awards. You got challenged because your comments indicate >> she has plenty of money to pay for the child's basic child rearing >> expenditures plus pay for extras like college funding and tutoring. It >> came off as her sounding greedy. > > Actually Bob, I don't even think she knows he's on here asking about > starting trouble in China! > He barely knows this woman and thinks he's going to act in her best > interest. > > The fact that he has a daughter and dating other women who he brings into > her life shows that he's morally corrupt and don't hold many values. > Sending money for CS is not proof of morals, the law tells him to do it! There is another aspect of this the OP needs to understand. If his GF cannot get any CS money from her ex who now resides in China, if the BF knocks her up and she claims it's an "Oops", he will be the next financial meal ticket for her future who is very reachable by the courts.
From: Chris on 9 Sep 2008 23:26 -- [Any man that's good enough to support a child is good enough to have custody of such child] .. .. "Tomcat" <tom_overton_1968(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:0b0d8479-5668-4cb7-a87f-89ae0e86078d(a)d45g2000hsc.googlegroups.com... On Sep 8, 10:45 pm, whatamess <mudanz...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > Maybe your girlfriend needs to bust her behind and support her > child... I'm surprised as a woman you would make such a rude and insensitive statement. Plus aren't most people in the U.S. nowdays busting their butt to support their family? Maybe you assume my gf is just a lazy, drinking, irresponsible sloth who sits around collecting welfare and food stamps but sorry you're wrong. My girlfriend has raised her son for 11 years on her own, and is diligintly saving so she can send him to M.I.T. She is paying for him to go to private classes on weekends to further his education and prepare him for college entrance exams. ***************** Certainly doesn't sound like "financial suffering" to me. ***************** Do you think this is easy on one income with no help from the father?
From: Chris on 9 Sep 2008 23:31
-- [Any man that's good enough to support a child is good enough to have custody of such child] .. .. "Tomcat" <tom_overton_1968(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:7f9bad36-1061-4c80-b33c-f69018301fc6(a)l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com... On Sep 9, 11:50 am, "Bob W" <robe...(a)teleport.com> wrote: > ======= > Have you considered not being married to the boy's father is a significant > cause for a reduced lifestyle? And more importantly, CS is for the > children, not money to improve a mother's lifestyle. CS in my opinion is to support the "family environment" in which the child will be raised. Most child support payments are more than enough to cover food and clothing. The child support I pay my ex gives them the financial freedom to choose to live in a good house in a good neighborhood within a good school district. Yes, of course I know my gf's choice to get divorced resulted in an inevitable reduced lifestyle. But that doesn't take away the central fact that the father owes money that could give his son a better life which was the whole point of this discussion. ****************** Keyword: "could". "Child support" says absolutely NOTHING about the support of any child. |