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From: Tomcat on 9 Sep 2008 12:58 On Sep 9, 11:28 am, "Bob W" <robe...(a)teleport.com> wrote: > "Tomcat" <tom_overton_1...(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message > > news:de88eda3-9513-4a3c-b014-327f431e49b8(a)i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... > > > My girlfriend's ex is Chinese and he moved back to China. I think > > he's a dual citizen. Is there a way to collect child support from > > him? They were divorced here in the U.S. with child support required > > in the decree. I would assume collecting it now would be a very long > > and tedious process, especially considering the fact it's China we're > > talking about. Its just sad that he can run back to a country > > experiencing extreme economic growith and become a millionaire while > > his son is here suffering financially. > > International CS cases are managed under treatises. It all depends on > whether your country has a CS treaty agreement with China or not. > > Why are you getting involved in a private matter between the child's mother > and father? My advice would be to butt out! How is simply asking a general question on a newsgroup, as a friend and lover of another person, "getting involved in a private matter"? It's not like I'm ordering her around, demanding to see every detail of her divorce papers and telling her what to do.. I'm just curious as to how international CS cases work and thought I'd try to get some insight so I could be more educated and understand things more. Is that going too far? Thanks for the response though :)
From: Tomcat on 9 Sep 2008 13:10 On Sep 9, 11:52 am, "DB" <Dee...(a)netscape.net> wrote: > > What part of Divorce don't you get? > > Being single doesn't come with the same advantages of whole families, nor > should the government guarantee a lifestyle for anyone regardless of gender > or financial status. > > It's her Idea to send her kid to MIT, let her pay for it, else there's > plenty of affordable colleges within her budget!!!!!!!! Did I say she was whining and expecting government handouts and guaranteees? Where in any of my messages did I say anything about she or I expecting her life to have been a perfect "Leave it to Beaver" family life all this time? The whole purpose of my original post was a simple question concerning a deadbeat father who hadn't paid his child support.
From: SamIAm on 9 Sep 2008 14:01 Bob W wrote: > > "Tomcat" <tom_overton_1968(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:475382a6-e10e-4d56-9ec2-75c0b87a8695(a)m45g2000hsb.googlegroups.com... > On Sep 9, 10:50 am, "DB" <Dee...(a)netscape.net> wrote: >> "Tomcat" <tom_overton_1...(a)yahoo.com> wrote in >> >> > My girlfriend has raised her son for 11 years on her own, and is >> >> diligintly saving so she can send him to M.I.T. She is paying for him >> to go to private classes on weekends to further his education and >> prepare him for college entrance exams. Do you think this is easy on >> one income with no help from the father? >> >> Why don't you help her out financially if you are so concerned for her? > > I do help her some (remember we aren't even married yet and have been > dating less than a year) but I don't help her to the degree her son's > own father should help and is legally obligated to. I also have a > daughter of my own I'm supporting. I should point out, it's not like > she and her son are starving or anything. But without the father's > child support money they haven't been able to have have the kind of > life they could have had all these years. > > ======= > Have you considered not being married to the boy's father is a > significant cause for a reduced lifestyle? And more importantly, CS is > for the children, not money to improve a mother's lifestyle. The way it works is: Father doesn't pay child support Mother has to pay for all child care expenses Mother then has less money for other things. Mother's lifestyle is affected when father doesn't pay child support.
From: Tomcat on 9 Sep 2008 14:12 On Sep 9, 11:50 am, "Bob W" <robe...(a)teleport.com> wrote: > ======= > Have you considered not being married to the boy's father is a significant > cause for a reduced lifestyle? And more importantly, CS is for the > children, not money to improve a mother's lifestyle. CS in my opinion is to support the "family environment" in which the child will be raised. Most child support payments are more than enough to cover food and clothing. The child support I pay my ex gives them the financial freedom to choose to live in a good house in a good neighborhood within a good school district. Yes, of course I know my gf's choice to get divorced resulted in an inevitable reduced lifestyle. But that doesn't take away the central fact that the father owes money that could give his son a better life which was the whole point of this discussion.
From: Bob W on 9 Sep 2008 15:07
"Tomcat" <tom_overton_1968(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:7f9bad36-1061-4c80-b33c-f69018301fc6(a)l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com... On Sep 9, 11:50 am, "Bob W" <robe...(a)teleport.com> wrote: > ======= > Have you considered not being married to the boy's father is a significant > cause for a reduced lifestyle? And more importantly, CS is for the > children, not money to improve a mother's lifestyle. CS in my opinion is to support the "family environment" in which the child will be raised. Most child support payments are more than enough to cover food and clothing. ====== You came to the right place to get your opinions challenged. Child support guideline amounts are based on economic models that use child rearing expenditures reported by thousands of intact families. CS has nothing to do with being for the family environment. While I'll agree lots of custodial parents use the CS money to improve the family environment, it is because of that behavior people like me favor strict accountability of how CS is spent. One of the most blatant abuses of CS misspending is when a mother receives CS intended for one child to support her other children in the family environment. That means the father is supporting children that are not his biological offspring and his child is suffering financially because his CS is being used inappropriately. |