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From: tracey on 18 Oct 2005 01:50 hi everyone, i am in australia, and we are having the second series of the big loser here, guys against girls, anyway, what i dont understand, is how come they are losing some HUGE amounts of weight? are they starving and exercising all day? some guy lost 19 odd pounds in ONE week. i converted, its 8kgs, thats just ridiculous.. but he wasnt alone.. lots were losing a consistent 10-12 pounds. 4 kgs!!!!!!! \ i dont get it. is it just starvation diets? and if it is starvation diets, whats with all that rhetoric that starvation diets slow down ur metabolism so much you dont lose weight. it obviously works for them. t
From: Matty on 18 Oct 2005 08:13 "tracey" <traceydunno(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:43548d9b$1(a)quokka.wn.com.au... > hi everyone, > > i am in australia, and we are having the second series of the big loser > here, guys against girls, anyway, what i dont understand, is how come they > are losing some HUGE amounts of weight? are they starving and exercising > all day? some guy lost 19 odd pounds in ONE week. i converted, its 8kgs, > thats just ridiculous.. but he wasnt alone.. lots were losing a consistent > 10-12 pounds. 4 kgs!!!!!!! > \ > > i dont get it. is it just starvation diets? and if it is starvation diets, > whats with all that rhetoric that starvation diets slow down ur metabolism > so much you dont lose weight. it obviously works for them. > > t > Hi T, The program behind "The Biggest Loser" is very intense from what I can gather with several workout sessions a day lasting at least an hour (probably more like 90min) along with either a strict low-carb or low calorie diet (depending on which trainer the team has). Truly it isn't a very ideal way to lose weight, but it does jumpstart their individual programs. There was one guy so far (I can't remember what his name is) that apparently hasn't continued his program at home - he says he hasn't weighed himself since being on the show. Gee, I wonder why?? I know myself that I can't devote 90min 4 or 5 times a day to exercise. My program works for me because it entails lifestyle changes that will last forever. Matty 481/298/241 (starting weight/current weight/goal weight) First mini goal achieved - 104lbs lost 10/26/04 Second mini goal achieved - 137lbs lost 01/28/05 Third mini goal achieved - 183lbs lost 09/30/05 Fourth mini goal - 200lbs total lost by 02/24/06 (new goal set!)
From: Matthew Venhaus on 19 Oct 2005 10:53 tracey <traceydunno(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:43548d9b$1(a)quokka.wn.com.au... > hi everyone, > > i am in australia, and we are having the second series of the big loser > here, guys against girls, anyway, what i dont understand, is how come they > are losing some HUGE amounts of weight? are they starving and exercising all > day? some guy lost 19 odd pounds in ONE week. i converted, its 8kgs, thats > just ridiculous.. but he wasnt alone.. lots were losing a consistent 10-12 > pounds. 4 kgs!!!!!!! > \ > i dont get it. is it just starvation diets? and if it is starvation diets, > whats with all that rhetoric that starvation diets slow down ur metabolism > so much you dont lose weight. it obviously works for them. > Remember the program is dealing with severly obese people so it helps to think in terms of percentage of bodyweight lost. I've missed a couple of the shows, but when I have seen it they are losing around 2-3% of their bodyweight per week. This is a little faster than typical, but they are dedicating their entire lives at the moment to weight loss so its not outrageous. There have been a few posts recently about starvation diets and metabolic slow down; views are mixed, but I think there is some metabolic slow down aside from just the amount that would be expected from being at a lower weight, but not so much that the body would stop losing weight entirely. Also there is the matter of normal bodyweight fluctuation. I weigh daily and last night I was down 5 pounds from the previous evening. That is the biggest jump I have seen, but there has been quite a bit of variability that cannot be explained by diet or exercise. Another thing to consider in the real world is the accuracy and consistency of scales. Hopefully, since there is a good bit of money on the line the official "Biggest Loser" scale is being calibrated weekly and this is not a factor for the show.
From: joanne on 19 Oct 2005 12:14 Matthew Venhaus wrote: > but they are dedicating their entire lives at the moment to > weight loss so its not outrageous. There have been a few posts > recently about starvation diets and metabolic slow down; views are > mixed, but I think there is some metabolic slow down aside from just > the amount that would be expected from being at a lower weight, but > not so much that the body would stop losing weight entirely. As in last nights show, the guy who was increasing his cardio to an extra 3-5hrs (they HAVE to do at least 2 hours of exercise a day)lost only like 3 or 4 pounds this week. He was soooo surprised because he thought all the extra workouts would put him out ahead of everyone else. But what he didnt get was what the trainer (Jillian) asked him if he was *eating enough* to be doing all this extra exercise and that it might backfire on him as his body might go into starvation mode and hang onto some weight. So strange as it may seem in some instances you do have to eatmore to lose weight. Then again, another red team member was making eggs & sausages in the middle of the night and of course lost nothing because he didnt have a big enough caloric deficit for the week. Kind of makes you think your're damned if you do and damned if you dont eh? ;-) joanne
From: Cubit on 19 Oct 2005 12:24
It would appear, from season one, that extreme exercise can cause remarkable weightloss. I feel this level of exercise is dangerous. The rates of weightloss on the show create a very unrealistic impression for those doing conventional weightloss by eating less. A pound a week is good progress. I'm not watching season 2. "tracey" <traceydunno(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:43548d9b$1(a)quokka.wn.com.au... > hi everyone, > > i am in australia, and we are having the second series of the big loser > here, guys against girls, anyway, what i dont understand, is how come they > are losing some HUGE amounts of weight? are they starving and exercising all > day? some guy lost 19 odd pounds in ONE week. i converted, its 8kgs, thats > just ridiculous.. but he wasnt alone.. lots were losing a consistent 10-12 > pounds. 4 kgs!!!!!!! > \ > > i dont get it. is it just starvation diets? and if it is starvation diets, > whats with all that rhetoric that starvation diets slow down ur metabolism > so much you dont lose weight. it obviously works for them. > > t > > |