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From: ben on 23 Aug 2005 10:12
I have had 2 sockets since my 1 and 1/2 year amputation. The first was
ischail containment socket with a liner and a strap on the liner that
held it in. The socket was heavy and do to change in size of stump
and the liner it would twist and walkking was difficult. It was very
warm and sweat was a issue. I then went to the hanger comfortflex with
no liner and it was a dramatic improvement. But do to my increased
activity and more stump shrinkage and the heat of the summer I can't
keep up with the adjustments which are not easy to do. The company
lets me go in as often as I wants and will keep adjusting it for free.
I am at the stage now where the shrinkage is so significant that I
need to go to a new socket. The candicates are a new one that I
already have. A ossur suction liner system. A socket called the pump
it up system which has aire chambers at the support points and lets
you adjust the size and it is initially custom fitted. And finally the
yet to be announced vacum systems similar to the vas but for aboveknee
amputees.

My requirements are

1. the socket is comfortable to wear.

2. it handles daily volume fluctiuations

3. it is easily adjustableto handle stump size changes

4. It does not twist out of position

5. It is comfortable to sit on and does lose suction etc. when you do
sit so when you get up no adjustment is required.

6. It is easy to control the leg.

7. It is not a complicated procedure to put on and take off.


Anyone dare to pick a preference that best meets those objectives

thanks

Dave


From: Glenn Woodell on 23 Aug 2005 10:45
Gee, why don't you just ask for your old leg back. :)

My socket will not meet your needs because of your shrinkage but it
does satisfy numbers 1, 4, 5, and 6. Doning is not complicated but I
do wish it were a little simpler.

Good luck in your search. This should generate some good discussion.

Glenn

On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 14:12:48 GMT, ben(a)pebble.com wrote:

>I have had 2 sockets since my 1 and 1/2 year amputation. The first was
>ischail containment socket with a liner and a strap on the liner that
>held it in. The socket was heavy and do to change in size of stump
>and the liner it would twist and walkking was difficult. It was very
>warm and sweat was a issue. I then went to the hanger comfortflex with
>no liner and it was a dramatic improvement. But do to my increased
>activity and more stump shrinkage and the heat of the summer I can't
>keep up with the adjustments which are not easy to do. The company
>lets me go in as often as I wants and will keep adjusting it for free.
>I am at the stage now where the shrinkage is so significant that I
>need to go to a new socket. The candicates are a new one that I
>already have. A ossur suction liner system. A socket called the pump
>it up system which has aire chambers at the support points and lets
>you adjust the size and it is initially custom fitted. And finally the
>yet to be announced vacum systems similar to the vas but for aboveknee
>amputees.
>
>My requirements are
>
>1. the socket is comfortable to wear.
>
>2. it handles daily volume fluctiuations
>
>3. it is easily adjustableto handle stump size changes
>
>4. It does not twist out of position
>
>5. It is comfortable to sit on and does lose suction etc. when you do
>sit so when you get up no adjustment is required.
>
>6. It is easy to control the leg.
>
>7. It is not a complicated procedure to put on and take off.
>
>
>Anyone dare to pick a preference that best meets those objectives
>
>thanks
>
>Dave
>

From: Jerry Sievers on 23 Aug 2005 10:56
ben(a)pebble.com writes:
>
> My requirements are
>
> 1. the socket is comfortable to wear.

Soft liner is better here.

> 2. it handles daily volume fluctiuations

Ditto

> 3. it is easily adjustableto handle stump size changes

Ditto and redundant.

> 4. It does not twist out of position

Depends on activity level.

> 5. It is comfortable to sit on and does lose suction etc. when you do
> sit so when you get up no adjustment is required.

Depends on the posterior trim line shape.

> 6. It is easy to control the leg.

Rigid liner systems better here.

> 7. It is not a complicated procedure to put on and take off.

Define complicated.
>
> Anyone dare to pick a preference that best meets those objectives

Assuming you are low-moderate activity amp, it sounds like you may
prefer a soft roll-on liner type system as opposed to full-suction.

Take this list to your prosthetist and report back what he/she says.

> thanks
>
> Dave
>
>

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From: ben on 24 Aug 2005 09:30
Glenn

What socket do you have?

Thanks
Dave

On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 10:45:03 -0400, Glenn Woodell
<letsrig@!!cox!!.net> wrote:

>Gee, why don't you just ask for your old leg back. :)
>
>My socket will not meet your needs because of your shrinkage but it
>does satisfy numbers 1, 4, 5, and 6. Doning is not complicated but I
>do wish it were a little simpler.
>
>Good luck in your search. This should generate some good discussion.
>
>Glenn
>
>On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 14:12:48 GMT, ben(a)pebble.com wrote:
>
>>I have had 2 sockets since my 1 and 1/2 year amputation. The first was
>>ischail containment socket with a liner and a strap on the liner that
>>held it in. The socket was heavy and do to change in size of stump
>>and the liner it would twist and walkking was difficult. It was very
>>warm and sweat was a issue. I then went to the hanger comfortflex with
>>no liner and it was a dramatic improvement. But do to my increased
>>activity and more stump shrinkage and the heat of the summer I can't
>>keep up with the adjustments which are not easy to do. The company
>>lets me go in as often as I wants and will keep adjusting it for free.
>>I am at the stage now where the shrinkage is so significant that I
>>need to go to a new socket. The candicates are a new one that I
>>already have. A ossur suction liner system. A socket called the pump
>>it up system which has aire chambers at the support points and lets
>>you adjust the size and it is initially custom fitted. And finally the
>>yet to be announced vacum systems similar to the vas but for aboveknee
>>amputees.
>>
>>My requirements are
>>
>>1. the socket is comfortable to wear.
>>
>>2. it handles daily volume fluctiuations
>>
>>3. it is easily adjustableto handle stump size changes
>>
>>4. It does not twist out of position
>>
>>5. It is comfortable to sit on and does lose suction etc. when you do
>>sit so when you get up no adjustment is required.
>>
>>6. It is easy to control the leg.
>>
>>7. It is not a complicated procedure to put on and take off.
>>
>>
>>Anyone dare to pick a preference that best meets those objectives
>>
>>thanks
>>
>>Dave
>>

From: ben on 24 Aug 2005 09:35
Jerry

My prosthetist says good luck. He is a hangar man and prefers their
suction socket but will go with anything I ask for. My activity is
substantial playing golf and practicing everyday. when i say
complicatedput on and off I mean it is either vaery time consuming or
you you have to go through muliple trys to get it in properlly.

dave


On 23 Aug 2005 10:56:50 -0400, Jerry Sievers <jerry(a)jerrysievers.com>
wrote:

>ben(a)pebble.com writes:
>>
>> My requirements are
>>
>> 1. the socket is comfortable to wear.
>
>Soft liner is better here.
>
>> 2. it handles daily volume fluctiuations
>
>Ditto
>
>> 3. it is easily adjustableto handle stump size changes
>
>Ditto and redundant.
>
>> 4. It does not twist out of position
>
>Depends on activity level.
>
>> 5. It is comfortable to sit on and does lose suction etc. when you do
>> sit so when you get up no adjustment is required.
>
>Depends on the posterior trim line shape.
>
>> 6. It is easy to control the leg.
>
>Rigid liner systems better here.
>
>> 7. It is not a complicated procedure to put on and take off.
>
>Define complicated.
>>
>> Anyone dare to pick a preference that best meets those objectives
>
>Assuming you are low-moderate activity amp, it sounds like you may
>prefer a soft roll-on liner type system as opposed to full-suction.
>
>Take this list to your prosthetist and report back what he/she says.
>
>> thanks
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>

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