From: natureloverchris on
I think I've been scolded/questioned enough about 'isolating' myself
that I don't let myself do it. I'm quite comfortable being alone much
of the time but people seem to not like it. earlier this month with the
beginning of school I started remembering the earlier years of school.
I knew I blocked it out. I'd tried in the past to remember with no
success. This time I wasn't trying to remember and it came back. One of
my memories is playing quite happily away from the other kids at the
bus stop. I remember them noticing me alone and throwing things at me.
I was a target.

last night at Rosh Hashanah services I sat way off to the side. I was
towards the front but I was the only person in that section and being
towards the front it was obvious. it was far enough off to the side
people didn't want to sit there I guess? it seems people want to bunch
together (weird). I could fidget without disrupting anyone and had less
people noise and contact. This morning I sat a bit more to the middle -
old habits, must not stand out. I wasn't comfortable. it was hard to
follow the services, very overloading. After a bit I move to my
isolated spot and services were better. I was stimming like mad and
didn't stop myself.

a bit ago at work my work group went on a field trip. we spent a lot of
time in the car. when we were out we were going as a group to check out
different sites. I let myself wander away from them at times. I let
myself go silent. And then at lunch I sat apart. my coworker/friend
asked if I was taking a break, instead of making up an excuse for my
isolation (which is what I would have done in the past) I simply said
yes. Of course it helped that she asked what she did. we've talked
about my issues and this time she got it :)

I'm still mostly 'in the closet' about myself. the reality is I was
abused at home, at school and in my neighborhood in large part because
of my autism. remembering the earlier years of school has been
horrible, but maybe it's letting me find myself too. I've lived with
fear so long, I never realized I was afraid. I didn't realize how I
consistently 'covered' for my difference because it was such an
automatic response. I don't know if I'll ever be able to fully let down
those gaurds, but slowly, bit by bit I'm learning to be more of my
autistic self. if I can take that person out of hiding, maybe I can
finally learn to like her

From: Jeremy Reece on
natureloverchris wrote:
> I'm still mostly 'in the closet' about myself. the reality is I was
> abused at home, at school and in my neighborhood in large part because
> of my autism. remembering the earlier years of school has been
> horrible, but maybe it's letting me find myself too. I've lived with
> fear so long, I never realized I was afraid. I didn't realize how I
> consistently 'covered' for my difference because it was such an
> automatic response. I don't know if I'll ever be able to fully let down
> those gaurds, but slowly, bit by bit I'm learning to be more of my
> autistic self. if I can take that person out of hiding, maybe I can
> finally learn to like her

Just smiling and nodding (internally). Sounds cathartic.

Jeremy
(who has those automatic defenses and cover stories too)

From: SpiderHam77 on
Chris:

Your story is compelling, and I do know that in school today the
amount of teasing and abuse doesn't happen. Mainly because autism is
reconized at such an early age, and the other kids of the clas are
taught about it.

My son who sufferes from Autism is in a mainstream class in school,
and both him and the other students benefit from him being there. The
other kids when they see my son is struggling with some all pitch in to
help, and give him the direction he needs to complete a task.

And my son follows their lead, and tries to interact as much as
possible with the other children. I think complared to 20 years ago
when we were all in school there is a huge difference in the amount of
tolerance.

One thing though, and I'm not trying to put you down, but you as the
person who suffers through it need to take the intiative. Hate to say
it, but you almost need to be more aware of your surroundings, and take
the needed steps that you don't get to the point where you need to
stim.

And try not to be to upset with people around you if they don't
understand whats going on. For the most part alot of people in the
current 20yrs or above has never had to deal with an autistic person in
mainstream society.

I thank the hard work of parents with these children in the past in
bringing forth the publicity it has now. And we as parents with
autistic children need to carry on the work.

There is no need to be in the closet. Simply come out and enjoy
life. If you start to have an episode, then pull yourself away for a
few min. I know it's hard to redirect on your own. But the more you
educate other people around you about whats going on, the more you'll
find that upon seeing you in a certain state, they will want to try and
help.

SpiderHam77

From: Rowe Rickenbacker on
Jeremy Reece wrote:

> natureloverchris wrote:
>
>> I'm still mostly 'in the closet' about myself. the reality is I was
>> abused at home, at school and in my neighborhood in large part
>> because of my autism. remembering the earlier years of school has
>> been horrible, but maybe it's letting me find myself too. I've
>> lived with fear so long, I never realized I was afraid.

I think that was what was holding me back too. Realising fear
is such a good way of getting past it. Once you realise how it
holds you back, you can let go of it and learn to be yourself.

Well, easier said than done, but it seems to be okay...

>> I didn't realize how I consistently 'covered' for my difference
>> because it was such an automatic response.

I feel this so much, and I'm glad you put it into words for me,
because as silly as it sounds, there seem to be so many parts
of myself that I have problems with, and they're as simple as
this to describe, but I can never do it until someone else
comes up with the right words for me...

So thankyou for that.

>> I don't know if I'll ever be able to fully let down those guards,
>> but slowly, bit by bit I'm learning to be more of my autistic self.
>> if I can take that person out of hiding, maybe I can finally learn
>> to like her

That's what I aim for. I hope you achieve your goal :)

> Just smiling and nodding (internally). Sounds cathartic.

I've been trying a lot more to figure myself out lately,
and despite what appears to be quite a lot of confidence in
conversation, I think it's apparent from my constant inability
to commit to anything that I'm not a particularly confident
person.

I can imagine Robin thinking that's a stupid reason to define
yourself as "under-confident", but I'll sneak around that by
saying it's not the only reason, but the best example I could
think of :)

Confidence is a scarecrow for bullies.

> Jeremy (who has those automatic defenses and cover stories too)

Sounds like the KGB :)

Tom
--
Before taking my post seriously, please take into account
that I was probably listening to Molotov when I wrote it.
From: Terry Jones on
On 4 Oct 2005 21:09:39 -0700, "natureloverchris"
<NLChris(a)centurytel.net> wrote:

>last night at Rosh Hashanah services I sat way off to the side. I was
>towards the front but I was the only person in that section and being
>towards the front it was obvious. it was far enough off to the side
>people didn't want to sit there I guess? it seems people want to bunch
>together (weird). I could fidget without disrupting anyone and had less
>people noise and contact. This morning I sat a bit more to the middle -
>old habits, must not stand out. I wasn't comfortable. it was hard to
>follow the services, very overloading. After a bit I move to my
>isolated spot and services were better. I was stimming like mad and
>didn't stop myself.

We went to a synagogue last month (during the Open House weekend, when
a lot of buildings are open to the public) - It was the Bevis Marks
Synagogue, the oldest active one in Britain
http://www.ottolenghi.org/bevis-marks.htm
All the male visitors were provided with a skullcap to wear as we went
in.

But there was a separate balcony for the women (men on the ground
floor) - This is a Sephardic congregation, so I'd assume the one you
attend has a different convention (or did you mean that you sat apart
in the women's section)?

Terry

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