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From: Andy Hall on 6 Aug 2008 06:51 On 2008-08-06 07:34:08 +0100, "BleepingBeauty" <BleepingBeauty(a)comm*speed.net> said: > > The water doesn't contact the heating element in my CPAP humidifier, but > that doesn't seem to make any difference when it comes to the mineral > deposits I have to deal with on a regular basis around the house. One of my > bathroom sinks drips a bit and, if I don't keep after it with vinegar often > enough, the drip leaves a hard green residue where it lands in the sink. I > have the same issue with the bathroom bowls, with green stains under the > rim. > > Side note: I've attempted to fix the drip in the sink, but I'm not that > handy, so I just deal with it. :-/ If you are having this kind of problem generically then some things a little more powerful than vinegar are needed. For devices like CPAP humidifiers, general humidifiers etc. ; some kind of food grade descaler is useful. You can use things like coffee maker descalers, but they tend to be expensive for what they are, which is generally citric acid. You should be able to get a large container of that in powder form from a pharmacy or drug store, although they may need to order it in. You don't need very much and it will work out a great deal less expensive than vinegar or distilled water. Not to mention that the smell of vinegar lingers. For the sinks etc. a cleaner incorporating Sulphamic acid will generally do a good job. Again you don't need to buy a proprietary one in pretty container. This acid is used as a descaler for domestic appliances such as water heaters and available from a plumbing supplier. Again normally it's in crystal form. It has a slight odour but that disappears after use. It's a great deal more effective than vinegar and most proprietary cleaners.
From: GB on 6 Aug 2008 09:08 "BleepingBeauty" <BleepingBeauty(a)comm*speed.net> wrote in message news:oPudnWEzc-Nc2ATVnZ2dnUVZ_tvinZ2d(a)posted.commspeed... > > Side note: I've attempted to fix the drip in the sink, but I'm not that > handy, so I just deal with it. :-/ In the UK, we have enticed away all of Poland's plumbers to deal with this sort of thing. Poland, meanwhile, is steadily submerging under a tide of blocked drains, and we will probably all die from a plague originating there. I'm feeling positive today. ^.^
From: Andy Hall on 6 Aug 2008 10:35 On 2008-08-06 14:08:55 +0100, "GB" <NOTsomeone(a)microsoft.com> said: > "BleepingBeauty" <BleepingBeauty(a)comm*speed.net> wrote in message > news:oPudnWEzc-Nc2ATVnZ2dnUVZ_tvinZ2d(a)posted.commspeed... >> >> Side note: I've attempted to fix the drip in the sink, but I'm not that >> handy, so I just deal with it. :-/ > > In the UK, we have enticed away all of Poland's plumbers to deal with this > sort of thing. Poland, meanwhile, is steadily submerging under a tide of > blocked drains, and we will probably all die from a plague originating > there. > > I'm feeling positive today. ^.^ It's true. I saw some Polish TV recently by satellite and there were commercials for an epoxy putty that you could put around pipes to fix leaks temporarily until you could find a plumber. The phone number of the company selling it? +44 ...... In a minor way, I wet myself laughing.
From: Hal S. on 6 Aug 2008 19:06 "BleepingBeauty" <BleepingBeauty(a)comm*speed.net> wrote in message news:oPudnWEzc-Nc2ATVnZ2dnUVZ_tvinZ2d(a)posted.commspeed... > > "Hal S." <h.sanders(a)comcast.net> wrote in message > news:gLKdnS90k9dmGQXVnZ2dnUVZ_vjinZ2d(a)comcast.com... >> >> "BleepingBeauty" <BleepingBeauty(a)comm*speed.net> wrote in message >> news:54Sdne7SuLNbjQrVnZ2dnUVZ_g-dnZ2d(a)posted.commspeed... >>> >>> "GB" <NOTsomeone(a)microsoft.com> wrote in message >>> news:4896f4b8$0$2509$da0feed9(a)news.zen.co.uk... >>>> >>>> "Andy Hall" <andyh(a)hall.nospam> wrote in message >>>> news:4891a11a(a)qaanaaq... >>>>> On 2008-07-31 01:46:42 +0100, Denny <anywhere(a)usa.com> said: >>> >>> <snip> >>> >>>> I'll just add that tap water is better than distilled, as it contains a >>>> bit of chlorine which stops bacteria growing. I've been using tap water >>>> for 10+ years. >>> >>> >>> While in theory that might be right, it really depends on the tap water. >>> Mine is heavily mineralized, and I have no doubt it would clog up my >>> CPAP humidifier in no time with heavy deposits. (I used to use two room >>> humidifiers in my house, filled with tap water. They both stopped >>> working after about a month of daily use, and I had to take them apart >>> and soak the heating elements in vinegar to get rid of all the buildup. >>> What a PITA.) >>> >>> I haven't had any problems using distilled water. But more power to you >>> if your tap water works just fine; it's cheaper and you don't have to >>> lug it home from the store. >>>---------------------------- >> >> What kind of xpap humidifer do you have where the water comes in contact >> with the heating element? > > The water doesn't contact the heating element in my CPAP humidifier, but > that doesn't seem to make any difference when it comes to the mineral > deposits I have to deal with on a regular basis around the house. One of > my bathroom sinks drips a bit and, if I don't keep after it with vinegar > often enough, the drip leaves a hard green residue where it lands in the > sink. I have the same issue with the bathroom bowls, with green stains > under the rim. > > Side note: I've attempted to fix the drip in the sink, but I'm not that > handy, so I just deal with it. :-/ >--------------------------------------------- I know what you mean about a leaky faucet. I finally broke down and called in a plumber. In regards to your humidifier, there is no way the water's mineral content could clog it up, since the water doesn't even touch the heating element. The water never enters your humidifier or xpap, only the reservoir. That's not to say, it won't cake up your reservoir, but other than cosmetically that is no big deal.
From: Hal S. on 6 Aug 2008 19:08
"Andy Hall" <andyh(a)hall.nospam> wrote in message news:4899b6bc(a)qaanaaq... > On 2008-08-06 14:08:55 +0100, "GB" <NOTsomeone(a)microsoft.com> said: > >> "BleepingBeauty" <BleepingBeauty(a)comm*speed.net> wrote in message >> news:oPudnWEzc-Nc2ATVnZ2dnUVZ_tvinZ2d(a)posted.commspeed... >>> >>> Side note: I've attempted to fix the drip in the sink, but I'm not that >>> handy, so I just deal with it. :-/ >> >> In the UK, we have enticed away all of Poland's plumbers to deal with >> this >> sort of thing. Poland, meanwhile, is steadily submerging under a tide of >> blocked drains, and we will probably all die from a plague originating >> there. >> >> I'm feeling positive today. ^.^ > > It's true. > > I saw some Polish TV recently by satellite and there were commercials for > an epoxy putty that you could put around pipes to fix leaks temporarily > until you could find a plumber. > > The phone number of the company selling it? +44 ...... > > In a minor way, I wet myself laughing. >------------------------ Hey, that epoxy putty has saved my bacon a couple times. In fact about 20 years ago, I accidently drilled into a water-service pipe. I put some epoxy on it, and it's still holding. |