From: = on
Is there a good way that alcohol can be used to safely used to reduce
anxiety, similar to the benzodiazepines - xanax valium etc - in a
person who is terribly anxious but is over fifty and has about zero
history of drinking anything. Could the use of the less than two
drinks a day recommended now contribute anything to lessening panic, or
is alcohol so dangerous that no-one with an anxiety disorder should
touch it. How would the use of alcohol compare with the use of a short
acting tranquilizer if in both cases the patient exactly followed the
doctor's dosage and instructions.

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From: Ian Rastall on
On Mon, 3 Jul 2006 18:27:29 -0500, "=" <penguinsare(a)gmail.com> wrote:

>How would the use of alcohol compare with the use of a short
>acting tranquilizer if in both cases the patient exactly followed the
>doctor's dosage and instructions.

Well, to put it one way, the doc would never prescribe whiskey. But
heck, people do use it to relax after work, or so I'm told. I never
saw much point in drinking unless it was a fifth, so I'm not the one
to talk to. :-/

Ian
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From: Tennessee Tony on
= wrote:
> Is there a good way that alcohol can be used to safely used to reduce
> anxiety, similar to the benzodiazepines - xanax valium etc - in a
> person who is terribly anxious but is over fifty and has about zero
> history of drinking anything. Could the use of the less than two
> drinks a day recommended now contribute anything to lessening panic, or
> is alcohol so dangerous that no-one with an anxiety disorder should
> touch it. How would the use of alcohol compare with the use of a short
> acting tranquilizer if in both cases the patient exactly followed the
> doctor's dosage and instructions.

Here is my short version:

Drank to self medicate for 25 years. Each year the anxiety got worse
and I kept drinking more and more. My life was a literal hell. Seldom
a day passed when I didn't think of suicide.

After 25 years I quit drinking and got professional help. Now, about
4.5 years later I'm feeling a lot better than I can remember ever feeling.

To sum up, I'd say the alcohol is a bad idea.

Tony

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From: Fred on

Tennessee Tony wrote:
> = wrote:
> > Is there a good way that alcohol can be used to safely used to reduce
> > anxiety, similar to the benzodiazepines - xanax valium etc - in a
> > person who is terribly anxious but is over fifty and has about zero
> > history of drinking anything. Could the use of the less than two
> > drinks a day recommended now contribute anything to lessening panic, or
> > is alcohol so dangerous that no-one with an anxiety disorder should
> > touch it. How would the use of alcohol compare with the use of a short
> > acting tranquilizer if in both cases the patient exactly followed the
> > doctor's dosage and instructions.
>
> Here is my short version:
>
> Drank to self medicate for 25 years. Each year the anxiety got worse
> and I kept drinking more and more. My life was a literal hell. Seldom
> a day passed when I didn't think of suicide.
>
> After 25 years I quit drinking and got professional help. Now, about
> 4.5 years later I'm feeling a lot better than I can remember ever feeling.
>
> To sum up, I'd say the alcohol is a bad idea.
>
> Tony
>
I had a grandfather that self-medicated with alcohol. He did this all
his life. In fact, he would drink until both the money and alcohol
were gone. Ironically, we settled in a small town in upstate New York
that was dry -not a single bar in town. He did fix his urdges by
drinking a barrel of hard cider each year - he would run out well
before the year was out. He also would go through a case of beer in
less than one week. Often he would be drinking both beer and cider at
the same time. He was eccentric. He taught me some things when I was
little that caused me to get teased and laughed at. We left Austria in
1952. My mother let him come to live with us when I was 5. I wish she
had never done this.
As for self medicating, alcohol in very small doses is not harmful.
When it gets to be a necessity in your life, it is a problem. A cold
beer on a very hot day sounds both appetizing and refreshing. A cold
beer on a cold day is something I can do without. A sip of wiskey on a
cold day sounds great - an then only about once or twice a week.
If I really have a bad bout of anxiety, no type of booze sounds good
and I refrain until I feel better.
Fred

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From: ~*LiveLoveLaugh*~ on
"=" <penguinsare(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1151969007.285552.256580(a)v61g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
> Is there a good way that alcohol can be used to safely used to reduce
> anxiety, similar to the benzodiazepines - xanax valium etc - in a
> person who is terribly anxious but is over fifty and has about zero
> history of drinking anything. Could the use of the less than two
> drinks a day recommended now contribute anything to lessening panic, or
> is alcohol so dangerous that no-one with an anxiety disorder should
> touch it. How would the use of alcohol compare with the use of a short
> acting tranquilizer if in both cases the patient exactly followed the
> doctor's dosage and instructions.

There isn't a safe way to 'self medicate' when it comes to alcohol. I would
not recommend trying "two drinks" a day to help relax. I mean, if two help
you relax, why not four or six per day? Having a drink w/a friend in a
social situation is one thing. Deliberately drinking to "calm down" is an
accident waiting to happen.

Don't rely on booze for anything. It's so dangerous... and I don't even
have to say how addicting it is. I'm a recovering alcoholic. If you were
with me and having a panic attack, I'd talk you through it. I'd have you
take a hot shower. I'd put on some good music. We'd take a walk. And we
would talk and take big deep breaths, and then those famous words will have
worked "this too shall pass".

Seriously, no booze. It is NOT a remedy.

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