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From: = on 3 Jul 2006 19:27 Is there a good way that alcohol can be used to safely used to reduce anxiety, similar to the benzodiazepines - xanax valium etc - in a person who is terribly anxious but is over fifty and has about zero history of drinking anything. Could the use of the less than two drinks a day recommended now contribute anything to lessening panic, or is alcohol so dangerous that no-one with an anxiety disorder should touch it. How would the use of alcohol compare with the use of a short acting tranquilizer if in both cases the patient exactly followed the doctor's dosage and instructions. -- ========== Please DELETE this text block when replying! ========== Contact the moderators at: asapm-board(a)stump.algebra.com The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm ========= This notice is added to each approved article ==========
From: Ian Rastall on 3 Jul 2006 20:40 On Mon, 3 Jul 2006 18:27:29 -0500, "=" <penguinsare(a)gmail.com> wrote: >How would the use of alcohol compare with the use of a short >acting tranquilizer if in both cases the patient exactly followed the >doctor's dosage and instructions. Well, to put it one way, the doc would never prescribe whiskey. But heck, people do use it to relax after work, or so I'm told. I never saw much point in drinking unless it was a fifth, so I'm not the one to talk to. :-/ Ian -- I'm sick of following my dreams. I'm just gonna ask where they're goin', and hook up with 'em later. (Mitch Hedberg) http://sundry.ws/ -- ========== Please DELETE this text block when replying! ========== Contact the moderators at: asapm-board(a)stump.algebra.com The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm ========= This notice is added to each approved article ==========
From: Tennessee Tony on 3 Jul 2006 23:10 = wrote: > Is there a good way that alcohol can be used to safely used to reduce > anxiety, similar to the benzodiazepines - xanax valium etc - in a > person who is terribly anxious but is over fifty and has about zero > history of drinking anything. Could the use of the less than two > drinks a day recommended now contribute anything to lessening panic, or > is alcohol so dangerous that no-one with an anxiety disorder should > touch it. How would the use of alcohol compare with the use of a short > acting tranquilizer if in both cases the patient exactly followed the > doctor's dosage and instructions. Here is my short version: Drank to self medicate for 25 years. Each year the anxiety got worse and I kept drinking more and more. My life was a literal hell. Seldom a day passed when I didn't think of suicide. After 25 years I quit drinking and got professional help. Now, about 4.5 years later I'm feeling a lot better than I can remember ever feeling. To sum up, I'd say the alcohol is a bad idea. Tony -- ========== Please DELETE this text block when replying! ========== Contact the moderators at: asapm-board(a)stump.algebra.com The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm ========= This notice is added to each approved article ==========
From: Fred on 4 Jul 2006 02:59 Tennessee Tony wrote: > = wrote: > > Is there a good way that alcohol can be used to safely used to reduce > > anxiety, similar to the benzodiazepines - xanax valium etc - in a > > person who is terribly anxious but is over fifty and has about zero > > history of drinking anything. Could the use of the less than two > > drinks a day recommended now contribute anything to lessening panic, or > > is alcohol so dangerous that no-one with an anxiety disorder should > > touch it. How would the use of alcohol compare with the use of a short > > acting tranquilizer if in both cases the patient exactly followed the > > doctor's dosage and instructions. > > Here is my short version: > > Drank to self medicate for 25 years. Each year the anxiety got worse > and I kept drinking more and more. My life was a literal hell. Seldom > a day passed when I didn't think of suicide. > > After 25 years I quit drinking and got professional help. Now, about > 4.5 years later I'm feeling a lot better than I can remember ever feeling. > > To sum up, I'd say the alcohol is a bad idea. > > Tony > I had a grandfather that self-medicated with alcohol. He did this all his life. In fact, he would drink until both the money and alcohol were gone. Ironically, we settled in a small town in upstate New York that was dry -not a single bar in town. He did fix his urdges by drinking a barrel of hard cider each year - he would run out well before the year was out. He also would go through a case of beer in less than one week. Often he would be drinking both beer and cider at the same time. He was eccentric. He taught me some things when I was little that caused me to get teased and laughed at. We left Austria in 1952. My mother let him come to live with us when I was 5. I wish she had never done this. As for self medicating, alcohol in very small doses is not harmful. When it gets to be a necessity in your life, it is a problem. A cold beer on a very hot day sounds both appetizing and refreshing. A cold beer on a cold day is something I can do without. A sip of wiskey on a cold day sounds great - an then only about once or twice a week. If I really have a bad bout of anxiety, no type of booze sounds good and I refrain until I feel better. Fred -- ========== Please DELETE this text block when replying! ========== Contact the moderators at: asapm-board(a)stump.algebra.com The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm ========= This notice is added to each approved article ==========
From: ~*LiveLoveLaugh*~ on 4 Jul 2006 11:21 "=" <penguinsare(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:1151969007.285552.256580(a)v61g2000cwv.googlegroups.com... > Is there a good way that alcohol can be used to safely used to reduce > anxiety, similar to the benzodiazepines - xanax valium etc - in a > person who is terribly anxious but is over fifty and has about zero > history of drinking anything. Could the use of the less than two > drinks a day recommended now contribute anything to lessening panic, or > is alcohol so dangerous that no-one with an anxiety disorder should > touch it. How would the use of alcohol compare with the use of a short > acting tranquilizer if in both cases the patient exactly followed the > doctor's dosage and instructions. There isn't a safe way to 'self medicate' when it comes to alcohol. I would not recommend trying "two drinks" a day to help relax. I mean, if two help you relax, why not four or six per day? Having a drink w/a friend in a social situation is one thing. Deliberately drinking to "calm down" is an accident waiting to happen. Don't rely on booze for anything. It's so dangerous... and I don't even have to say how addicting it is. I'm a recovering alcoholic. If you were with me and having a panic attack, I'd talk you through it. I'd have you take a hot shower. I'd put on some good music. We'd take a walk. And we would talk and take big deep breaths, and then those famous words will have worked "this too shall pass". Seriously, no booze. It is NOT a remedy. -- ?.??? ?)) -:?:- ?.?? .????)) Laurie ((??.?? ..?? -:?:- ((?? ?.? *~*LiveLoveLaugh, and hangin' in there!*~* Paddle together, bail, paddle; paddle, bail; paddle towards the land. ~Hawaiian proverb -- ========== Please DELETE this text block when replying! ========== Contact the moderators at: asapm-board(a)stump.algebra.com The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm ========= This notice is added to each approved article ==========
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