ab crunch causes back problems?
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From: "kvdv" <kvdv -at- on 23 Jan 2006 12:37 Hi, In the past I enjoyed doing ab crunches on a Technogym machine at the local gym. In the past months I suffered from a lower back hernia for which I eventually had to undergo surgery. Everything is fine now and the back pain is gone. My question: can I continue doing ab crunching or is it dangerous? My doctor, fyisiotherapist, manual therapist, etc all have different opinions :-) thanks for any advice, Kris
From: joeu2004 on 23 Jan 2006 21:59 kvdv wrote: > In the past I enjoyed doing ab crunches on a Technogym machine > at the local gym. In the past months I suffered from a lower back > hernia for which I eventually had to undergo surgery. Everything is > fine now and the back pain is gone. My question: can I continue > doing ab crunching or is it dangerous? My doctor, fyisiotherapist, > manual therapist, etc all have different opinions :-) You pay hundreds of dollars (or whatever) to those (hopefully) licensed pros, but you're going to follow the advice of anonymous internet users who might not yet have graduated from elementary school!? Your injury might extend far above the back :-). To answer your question: follow the advice of your doctor. Ask your doctor about the other opinions. They might be right; if so, your doctor should recognize that. If you want another qualified opinion (operative word is "qualified"), seek out one or two more doctors.
From: "kvdv" <kvdv -at- on 24 Jan 2006 04:21 Hi, There's a difference between blindly following someone's advice and *asking* for someone's advice. If I can't ask anyone's advice, except someone who's an absolute proven expert on the matter, than we can shutdown usenet and stop posting messages all together. And maybe, someone here who also had hernia surgery followed an expert's advice and did ab crunching, but had some really terrible experience doing this?... Your advice is to consult multiple experts, well, I already did that! And their advice to me is completely contradictory: - "You should swim" - "Swimming is bad" - "You should run" - "Running is bad" - You should do ab and back exercices - "ab and back exercices are bad" etc... Kris <joeu2004(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1138071542.599204.47500(a)z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... > kvdv wrote: > > You pay hundreds of dollars (or whatever) to those (hopefully) > licensed pros, but you're going to follow the advice of anonymous > internet users who might not yet have graduated from elementary > school!? Your injury might extend far above the back :-). > > To answer your question: follow the advice of your doctor. Ask > your doctor about the other opinions. They might be right; if so, > your doctor should recognize that. If you want another qualified > opinion (operative word is "qualified"), seek out one or two more > doctors. >
From: nomail1983 on 24 Jan 2006 04:56 kvdv wrote: > And maybe, someone here who also had hernia surgery > followed an expert's advice and did ab crunching, but had > some really terrible experience doing this? Fair enough! But no two back injuries are alike, and you do not want to fool around with back injuries. They have a habit of hobbling you -- even paralyzing you -- for life. > Your advice is to consult multiple experts, well, I already > did that! And their advice to me is completely contradictory That was __not__ my advice, and you did not do what I suggested already. Specifically, I said follow the advice of your (or a) __doctor__. And I said that if you want second or third opinions, seek the advice of other __doctors__. You asked for advice from this forum. That's my advice. I don't care if you follow it or not. It's worth every cent you paid for it :-). I was only hoping my response would awaken any common sense that lies dormant in your mind. From your response, I guess there is none. My mistake! ;-)
From: "kvdv" <kvdv -at- on 24 Jan 2006 05:27
<nomail1983(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1138096607.828563.56380(a)o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... > > Fair enough! But no two back injuries are alike, and you do > not want to fool around with back injuries. They have a habit > of hobbling you -- even paralyzing you -- for life. Fair enough! >> Your advice is to consult multiple experts, well, I already >> did that! And their advice to me is completely contradictory > > That was __not__ my advice, and you did not do what I > suggested already. Specifically, I said follow the advice of > your (or a) __doctor__. And I said that if you want second > or third opinions, seek the advice of other __doctors__. And what if I did consult three doctors (all specialised in back injuries) and they give me completely different/contradictory advice? Then what? Should I follow the advice of the first doctor, or the third maybe? > You asked for advice from this forum. That's my advice. I > don't care if you follow it or not. It's worth every cent you > paid for it :-). I guess so :-) |