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From: JH99 on 9 Feb 2006 14:01 I come from a 'mainstream' science background and am investigating alternative health care practices for my own benefit as well as to test my scientific knowledge. I believe much of the benefits of alternative practices come mainly from reducing stress and related phenomena, through: 1. attentive care and listening 2. human touch 3. subconscious accesses certain knowledges or movements that are beneficial (where pain is stored, what's good and bad for you) [I believe accessing the subconscious has some benefits, but they are very limited, esp. going beyond emotions and pain] 4. specific body movements: Tai Chi, yoga, etc. (see Smart Moves for starting to find science to understand how bodily movements can affect the brain & emotions) 5. obvious: breathing, relaxation, meditation 6. specific: some herbal treatments, etc. certainly have some validity I'm interested in claims that go beyond this, esp. if they have double blind randomized tests (or something similar), a material explanation or at least something I can test for myself. (For instance, the method of homeopathy would meet my criteria, except that as far as I know, it's failed to be proven that it does more than a listening friend and relaxation by itself would do.)
From: Brad_Chad on 10 Feb 2006 02:00 JH99 wrote: > I come from a 'mainstream' science background and am investigating > alternative health care practices for my own benefit as well as to test > my scientific knowledge. > > I believe much of the benefits of alternative practices come mainly > from reducing stress and related phenomena, through: > 1. attentive care and listening > 2. human touch > 3. subconscious accesses certain knowledges or movements that are > beneficial (where pain is stored, what's good and bad for you) [I > believe accessing the subconscious has some benefits, but they are very > limited, esp. going beyond emotions and pain] > 4. specific body movements: Tai Chi, yoga, etc. (see Smart Moves for > starting to find science to understand how bodily movements can affect > the brain & emotions) > 5. obvious: breathing, relaxation, meditation > 6. specific: some herbal treatments, etc. certainly have some validity > > I'm interested in claims that go beyond this, esp. if they have double > blind randomized tests (or something similar), a material explanation > or at least something I can test for myself. (For instance, the method > of homeopathy would meet my criteria, except that as far as I know, > it's failed to be proven that it does more than a listening friend and > relaxation by itself would do.) Did your "mainstream" instructors ever tell you about the Hidden Food Sensitivity controversy? Hidden Food Sensitivities can trigger eczema, asthma, psoriasis, ADHD, fatigue, migraines, and many other health problems. Conventional testing performed by allergists are poor at detecting food sensitivities other than "true" food allergies. People have a hard time recognizing these sensitivities because the first symptoms may not occur until 72 hours after you eat certain foods. They are also hard to recognize because the allergen may be hidden in the food additives used in processed foods. If you need more info, you can talk to a naturopathic doctor (Yellow Pages) or an alternative doctor (www.acam.org). Brad_Chad
From: yogi on 10 Feb 2006 02:17 Regarding homoeo: What is your source of information regarding homoeo. What is the methodology adopted in trying to prove homoeo. Drug proving in homoeo is not the same as of allopathy drugs.
From: vernon on 10 Feb 2006 08:48 "Brad_Chad" <Brad_Chad62(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1139554822.896492.147280(a)f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > > JH99 wrote: >> I come from a 'mainstream' science background and am investigating >> alternative health care practices for my own benefit as well as to test >> my scientific knowledge. >> >> I believe much of the benefits of alternative practices come mainly >> from reducing stress and related phenomena, through: >> 1. attentive care and listening >> 2. human touch >> 3. subconscious accesses certain knowledges or movements that are >> beneficial (where pain is stored, what's good and bad for you) [I >> believe accessing the subconscious has some benefits, but they are very >> limited, esp. going beyond emotions and pain] >> 4. specific body movements: Tai Chi, yoga, etc. (see Smart Moves for >> starting to find science to understand how bodily movements can affect >> the brain & emotions) >> 5. obvious: breathing, relaxation, meditation >> 6. specific: some herbal treatments, etc. certainly have some validity >> >> I'm interested in claims that go beyond this, esp. if they have double >> blind randomized tests (or something similar), a material explanation >> or at least something I can test for myself. (For instance, the method >> of homeopathy would meet my criteria, except that as far as I know, >> it's failed to be proven that it does more than a listening friend and >> relaxation by itself would do.) > > Did your "mainstream" instructors ever tell you about the Hidden > Food Sensitivity controversy? Hidden Food Sensitivities can trigger > eczema, asthma, psoriasis, ADHD, fatigue, migraines, and many other > health problems. Conventional testing performed by allergists are poor > at detecting food sensitivities other than "true" food allergies. > People have a hard time recognizing these sensitivities because the > first symptoms may not occur until 72 hours after you eat certain > foods. They are also hard to recognize because the allergen may be > hidden in the food additives used in processed foods. If you need more > info, you can talk to a naturopathic doctor (Yellow Pages) or an > alternative doctor (www.acam.org). > > Brad_Chad > Many, many traditional physicians (all that I am aware of) look at allergies as at or near the top of detection. Exception, those dealing with mommies and kids.
From: Brad_Chad on 10 Feb 2006 20:49
yogi wrote: > Regarding homoeo: > What is your source of information regarding homoeo. > What is the methodology adopted in trying to prove homoeo. > Drug proving in homoeo is not the same as of allopathy drugs. If you check your history, I think homeo used to be the dominant form of health care in the U.S.A., until the AMA and the pharmaceutical industry drove them out. Research health care in the 19th century. Conventional medicine is so arrogant and amoral. Just because something is anectdotal, that doesn't mean that it doesn't have merit. That may just mean that it hasn't been proven YET. Conventional medicine doesn't want to study Hidden Food Sensitivities because they are afraid that research will show that people need less medication than doctors currently prescribe. The other problem with conventional medicine is that they are so amoral. Sometimes people have health problems that do not require immediate medication, yet conventional doctors will prescribe it anyway. Many people with eczema, do not need a prescription for it. This problem can often be solved by finding the patients Hidden Food Sensitivities (HFS). Conventional doctors won't tell them about this approach, even though it is completely safe. That is amoral. Doctors are amoral and arrogant if they don't tell their patients about all of the safe alternatives to solving a health problem. Patients have a right to know. Brad_Chad |