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From: rosbif on 26 Jul 2008 05:06 - Larry and Joe - many thanks for posting up your figures. I see you both had +ve margins and what looks like a similar gentle post-surgery climb but opposite outcomes on the SRT albeit Joe's was much later on the curve. The mystery goes on. Best wishes to you both.
From: Just on 26 Jul 2008 10:14 On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 20:20:49 -0400, "Steve Kramer" <skramer(a)cinci.rr.com> wrote: >Again, assuming post-surgery and pre-radiation, my doctor was aggressive >when he signed me up for radiation when I hit 0.37. I don't think anyone on >the NG had RT with less than 0.37.... Maybe those without negative margins. >Most people, especially those who had this before me, started radiation >about 1.0. Of course, doctors vary. "I don't think anyone on the NG had RT with less than 0.37": not really... please see my data below. Pre RRP PSA: 18.5 RRP: March 1999 Extra-capsular extension: negative Lymph node involvement: negative Seminal vesicle involvement: negative Perineural invasion: negative Surgical margins: negative PSA: Until March 2001: <0.04 March 2001: 0.04 October 2001: 0.07 January 2002: 0.10 January 2002: 0.06 (one week later) April 2002: 0.05 (different Lab; different assay). October 2002: 0.08 April 2003: 0.10 November 2003: 0.12. February 2004: 0.13. June 2004: 0.14 November 2004: 0.18 March 2005: 0.21 SRT: March - May 2005 65 gy (45 gy to the pelvic area + 20 gy to the prostatic fossa) PSA until now: <0.02 best wishes. Just
From: Steve Kramer on 27 Jul 2008 13:52 "Just" <here(a)anon.com> wrote in message news:frbm841bvj0h4indp3b0c84n556n1gpt0f(a)4ax.com... > On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 20:20:49 -0400, "Steve Kramer" > "I don't think anyone on the NG had RT with less than 0.37": not > really... please see my data below. Dammit! I'm usually so careful about those all or none kind of statements. > PSA: > Until March 2001: <0.04 > March 2001: 0.04 > October 2001: 0.07 > January 2002: 0.10 > January 2002: 0.06 (one week later) > April 2002: 0.05 (different Lab; different assay). > October 2002: 0.08 > April 2003: 0.10 > November 2003: 0.12. > February 2004: 0.13. > June 2004: 0.14 > November 2004: 0.18 > March 2005: 0.21 > > SRT: March - May 2005 > 65 gy (45 gy to the pelvic area + 20 gy to the prostatic fossa) > > PSA until now: <0.02 You had a great run so far; both before and after SRT. -- PSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46 Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c RRP 12/15/2000 G7 (3+4), T3cN0M0 Neg margins PSA <.1 <.1 <.1 .27 .37 .75 PSAD 0.19 years EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47 PSA .34 .22 .15 .21 .32 PSAD .056 years Lupron 07/03 (1 mo) 8/03 and every 4 months there after PSA .07 .05 .06 .09 .08 .132 .145 PSAD 1.4 years Casodex added daily 07/06 PSA <0.04, <0.05, <0.04, <0.04, <0.1 2/12/08 Illegitimati non carborundum
From: Just on 27 Jul 2008 15:01 On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 13:52:51 -0400, "Steve Kramer" <skramer(a)cinci.rr.com> wrote: >"Just" <here(a)anon.com> wrote in message >news:frbm841bvj0h4indp3b0c84n556n1gpt0f(a)4ax.com... >> On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 20:20:49 -0400, "Steve Kramer" > >> "I don't think anyone on the NG had RT with less than 0.37": not >> really... please see my data below. > >Dammit! I'm usually so careful about those all or none kind of statements. > Who had the lowest PSA going into SRT is not important... I thought I should mention my PSA level though, to indirectly emphasize the importance (I believe) of going into SRT with a pretty low PSA. Just
From: Steve Kramer on 27 Jul 2008 15:55
"Just" <here(a)anon.com> wrote in message news:37hp84pl39p8r6mtc6msepa3ho2bo94q00(a)4ax.com... > On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 13:52:51 -0400, "Steve Kramer" > <skramer(a)cinci.rr.com> wrote: > >>"Just" <here(a)anon.com> wrote in message >>news:frbm841bvj0h4indp3b0c84n556n1gpt0f(a)4ax.com... >>> On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 20:20:49 -0400, "Steve Kramer" >> >>> "I don't think anyone on the NG had RT with less than 0.37": not >>> really... please see my data below. >> >>Dammit! I'm usually so careful about those all or none kind of >>statements. >> > > Who had the lowest PSA going into SRT is not important... > > I thought I should mention my PSA level though, to indirectly > emphasize the importance (I believe) of going into SRT with a pretty > low PSA. I concur. I firmly believe aggressive therapy is the key to sustaining life. -- PSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46 Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c RRP 12/15/2000 G7 (3+4), T3cN0M0 Neg margins PSA <.1 <.1 <.1 .27 .37 .75 PSAD 0.19 years EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47 PSA .34 .22 .15 .21 .32 PSAD .056 years Lupron 07/03 (1 mo) 8/03 and every 4 months there after PSA .07 .05 .06 .09 .08 .132 .145 PSAD 1.4 years Casodex added daily 07/06 PSA <0.04, <0.05, <0.04, <0.04, <0.1 2/12/08 Illegitimati non carborundum |