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From: Mr. Smartypants on 4 Sep 2008 16:38
On Sep 3, 12:07 am, Rudy Canoza <pi...(a)thedismalscience.noot> wrote:
> Rupert wrote:
> > On Aug 27, 4:16 am, Rudy Canoza <notgen...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> On Aug 26, 11:45 pm, Rupert <rupertmccal...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>> On Aug 26, 9:12 pm, Rudy Canoza <notgen...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>> On Aug 26, 5:22 pm, use...(a)mantra.com and/orwww.mantra.com/jai(Dr.
> >>>> Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> >>>>> Fact City 19
> >>>>> Eating Meat Wastes Our Resources
> >>>>> When it comes to resource and energy wastage, meat products
> >>>>> are a class by themselves.
> >>>>> Scientists compute the energy costs of foods by the value
> >>>>> of the raw materials consumed in the production of that
> >>>>> food. Frances Moore Lappe reports:
> >>>>>  A detailed 1978 study sponsored by the Department of
> >>>>>  Interior and Commerce produced startling figures showing
> >>>>>  that the value of raw materials consumed to produce food
> >>>>>  from livestock is greater than the value of all oil,
> >>>>>  gas, and coal consumed in this country.
> >>>>> The same study revealed the equally startling fact that the
> >>>>> production of meats, dairy products and eggs accounts for
> >>>>> one-third of the total amount of all raw materials used for
> >>>>> all purposes in the United States.
> >>>>> In contrast, growing grains, vegetables and fruits for
> >>>>> direct human consumprion is a model of efficiency, using
> >>>>> less than 5% the raw material consumption as does the
> >>>>> production of meat.
> >>>>> Another way scientists compute the energy costs of various
> >>>>> foods is to assess the amount of fossil fuel needed to
> >>>>> produce them. An American scientist, David Pimental,
> >>>> Not a scientist, of course.
> >>>>> calculates that if the whole world were to eat according to
> >>>>> wasteful U.S. agricultural practices, the planet's entire
> >>>>> petroleum reserves would be exhausted in 13 years.
> >>>> So, rupie, once *AGAIN*, we see that the bogus "inefficiency" argument
> >>>> is *not* about environmental concerns, but is, as I have always
> >>>> maintained, a *BOGUS* argument about resource allocation, and a
> >>>> complete *misperception* of the notion of value.- Hide quoted text -
> >>>> - Show quoted text -
> >>> I already conceded everything that needed to be conceded on that
> >>> point.
> >> No, you fudged and qualified that.  It was an insincere and phony
> >> concession - typical of your intellectual dishonesty.
>
> > Absolute rubbish.
>
> Nope - fudge and qualification.
>
> >>> Could you answer my question in the other thread, please?
> >>> Your decision to take up the hobby of trying to annoy people and waste
> >>> their time on the internet:
> >> No such hobby.
>
> > You actually think
>
> No such hobby.-


Since it's not your hobby do you consider it to be your profession?

BTW, show us your degrees...........if you have any.
From: Rupert on 5 Sep 2008 02:29
On Sep 2, 11:07 pm, Rudy Canoza <pi...(a)thedismalscience.noot> wrote:
> Rupert wrote:
> > On Aug 27, 4:16 am, Rudy Canoza <notgen...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> On Aug 26, 11:45 pm, Rupert <rupertmccal...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>> On Aug 26, 9:12 pm, Rudy Canoza <notgen...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>> On Aug 26, 5:22 pm, use...(a)mantra.com and/orwww.mantra.com/jai(Dr.
> >>>> Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> >>>>> Fact City 19
> >>>>> Eating Meat Wastes Our Resources
> >>>>> When it comes to resource and energy wastage, meat products
> >>>>> are a class by themselves.
> >>>>> Scientists compute the energy costs of foods by the value
> >>>>> of the raw materials consumed in the production of that
> >>>>> food. Frances Moore Lappe reports:
> >>>>>  A detailed 1978 study sponsored by the Department of
> >>>>>  Interior and Commerce produced startling figures showing
> >>>>>  that the value of raw materials consumed to produce food
> >>>>>  from livestock is greater than the value of all oil,
> >>>>>  gas, and coal consumed in this country.
> >>>>> The same study revealed the equally startling fact that the
> >>>>> production of meats, dairy products and eggs accounts for
> >>>>> one-third of the total amount of all raw materials used for
> >>>>> all purposes in the United States.
> >>>>> In contrast, growing grains, vegetables and fruits for
> >>>>> direct human consumprion is a model of efficiency, using
> >>>>> less than 5% the raw material consumption as does the
> >>>>> production of meat.
> >>>>> Another way scientists compute the energy costs of various
> >>>>> foods is to assess the amount of fossil fuel needed to
> >>>>> produce them. An American scientist, David Pimental,
> >>>> Not a scientist, of course.
> >>>>> calculates that if the whole world were to eat according to
> >>>>> wasteful U.S. agricultural practices, the planet's entire
> >>>>> petroleum reserves would be exhausted in 13 years.
> >>>> So, rupie, once *AGAIN*, we see that the bogus "inefficiency" argument
> >>>> is *not* about environmental concerns, but is, as I have always
> >>>> maintained, a *BOGUS* argument about resource allocation, and a
> >>>> complete *misperception* of the notion of value.- Hide quoted text -
> >>>> - Show quoted text -
> >>> I already conceded everything that needed to be conceded on that
> >>> point.
> >> No, you fudged and qualified that.  It was an insincere and phony
> >> concession - typical of your intellectual dishonesty.
>
> > Absolute rubbish.
>
> Nope - fudge and qualification.
>
> >>> Could you answer my question in the other thread, please?
> >>> Your decision to take up the hobby of trying to annoy people and waste
> >>> their time on the internet:
> >> No such hobby.
>
> > You actually think
>
> No such hobby.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

You're saying you're not in the hobby of thinking? Yes, we suspected
that.
From: Rupert on 7 Sep 2008 21:20
On Sep 5, 7:28 am, Rudy Canoza <pi...(a)thedismalscience.noot> wrote:
> Rupert wrote:
> > On Sep 2, 11:07 pm, Rudy Canoza <pi...(a)thedismalscience.noot> wrote:
> >> Rupert wrote:
> >>> On Aug 27, 4:16 am, Rudy Canoza <notgen...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>> On Aug 26, 11:45 pm, Rupert <rupertmccal...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>>> On Aug 26, 9:12 pm, Rudy Canoza <notgen...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> On Aug 26, 5:22 pm, use...(a)mantra.com and/orwww.mantra.com/jai(Dr.
> >>>>>> Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> >>>>>>> Fact City 19
> >>>>>>> Eating Meat Wastes Our Resources
> >>>>>>> When it comes to resource and energy wastage, meat products
> >>>>>>> are a class by themselves.
> >>>>>>> Scientists compute the energy costs of foods by the value
> >>>>>>> of the raw materials consumed in the production of that
> >>>>>>> food. Frances Moore Lappe reports:
> >>>>>>>  A detailed 1978 study sponsored by the Department of
> >>>>>>>  Interior and Commerce produced startling figures showing
> >>>>>>>  that the value of raw materials consumed to produce food
> >>>>>>>  from livestock is greater than the value of all oil,
> >>>>>>>  gas, and coal consumed in this country.
> >>>>>>> The same study revealed the equally startling fact that the
> >>>>>>> production of meats, dairy products and eggs accounts for
> >>>>>>> one-third of the total amount of all raw materials used for
> >>>>>>> all purposes in the United States.
> >>>>>>> In contrast, growing grains, vegetables and fruits for
> >>>>>>> direct human consumprion is a model of efficiency, using
> >>>>>>> less than 5% the raw material consumption as does the
> >>>>>>> production of meat.
> >>>>>>> Another way scientists compute the energy costs of various
> >>>>>>> foods is to assess the amount of fossil fuel needed to
> >>>>>>> produce them. An American scientist, David Pimental,
> >>>>>> Not a scientist, of course.
> >>>>>>> calculates that if the whole world were to eat according to
> >>>>>>> wasteful U.S. agricultural practices, the planet's entire
> >>>>>>> petroleum reserves would be exhausted in 13 years.
> >>>>>> So, rupie, once *AGAIN*, we see that the bogus "inefficiency" argument
> >>>>>> is *not* about environmental concerns, but is, as I have always
> >>>>>> maintained, a *BOGUS* argument about resource allocation, and a
> >>>>>> complete *misperception* of the notion of value.- Hide quoted text -
> >>>>>> - Show quoted text -
> >>>>> I already conceded everything that needed to be conceded on that
> >>>>> point.
> >>>> No, you fudged and qualified that.  It was an insincere and phony
> >>>> concession - typical of your intellectual dishonesty.
> >>> Absolute rubbish.
> >> Nope - fudge and qualification.
>
> >>>>> Could you answer my question in the other thread, please?
> >>>>> Your decision to take up the hobby of trying to annoy people and waste
> >>>>> their time on the internet:
> >>>> No such hobby.
> >>> You actually think
> >> No such hobby.- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > You're saying you're not in the hobby of thinking?
>
> That wasn't the alleged hobby.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

It was after you did your usual snippety-snip thing.
From: dh on 8 Sep 2008 13:39
On Sun, 07 Sep 2008, Goo wrote:

>On Sep 2, 11:07�pm, Goo wrote:
>> Rupert wrote:
>> > On Aug 27, 4:16 am, Goo wrote:
>> >> On Aug 26, 11:45 pm, Rupert <rupertmccal...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> >>> On Aug 26, 9:12 pm, Goo wrote:
>> >>>> On Aug 26, 5:22 pm, use...(a)mantra.com and/orwww.mantra.com/jai(Dr.
>> >>>> Jai Maharaj) wrote:
>> >>>>> Rupert wrote:

>>>>>>>> Could you answer my question in the other thread, please?
>>>>>>>> Your decision to take up the hobby of trying to annoy people and waste
>>>>>>>> their time on the internet:

>>>>>>> No such hobby.

>>>>>> You actually think

>>>>> No such hobby.

>>>> You're saying you're not in the hobby of thinking?

>>> That wasn't the alleged hobby.
>>
>> It was after you did your usual snippety-snip thing.
>
>There was no such alleged hobby.

No one is accusing you of thinking Goo. We all agree you
certainly don't appear in the habit of doing that, as you say.
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