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From: dh on 27 Aug 2008 11:51 On Wed, 27 Aug 2008, Goo wrote: >On Aug 26, 11:45 pm, Rupert <rupertmccal...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> On Aug 26, 9:12 pm, Goo wrote: >> >> >> >> > On Aug 26, 5:22 pm, use...(a)mantra.com and/orwww.mantra.com/jai(Dr. >> >> > Jai Maharaj) wrote: >> > > Fact City 19 >> >> > > Eating Meat Wastes Our Resources >> >> > > When it comes to resource and energy wastage, meat products >> > > are a class by themselves. >> >> > > Scientists compute the energy costs of foods by the value >> > > of the raw materials consumed in the production of that >> > > food. Frances Moore Lappe reports: >> >> > > A detailed 1978 study sponsored by the Department of >> > > Interior and Commerce produced startling figures showing >> > > that the value of raw materials consumed to produce food >> > > from livestock is greater than the value of all oil, >> > > gas, and coal consumed in this country. >> >> > > The same study revealed the equally startling fact that the >> > > production of meats, dairy products and eggs accounts for >> > > one-third of the total amount of all raw materials used for >> > > all purposes in the United States. >> >> > > In contrast, growing grains, vegetables and fruits for >> > > direct human consumprion is a model of efficiency, using >> > > less than 5% the raw material consumption as does the >> > > production of meat. >> >> > > Another way scientists compute the energy costs of various >> > > foods is to assess the amount of fossil fuel needed to >> > > produce them. An American scientist, David Pimental, >> >> > Not a scientist, of course. >> >> > > calculates that if the whole world were to eat according to >> > > wasteful U.S. agricultural practices, the planet's entire >> > > petroleum reserves would be exhausted in 13 years. >> >> > So, rupie, once *AGAIN*, we see that the bogus "inefficiency" argument >> > is *not* about environmental concerns, but is, as I have always >> > maintained, a *BOGUS* argument about resource allocation, and a >> > complete *misperception* of the notion of value.- Hide quoted text - >> >> > - Show quoted text - >> >> I already conceded everything that needed to be conceded on that >> point. > >No, you fudged and qualified that. Try to explain just what it is you think you're trying to talk about Goo. Go: >It was an insincere and phony >concession - typical of your intellectual dishonesty. > > >> Could you answer my question in the other thread, please? >> >> Your decision to take up the hobby of trying to annoy people and waste >> their time on the internet: > >No such hobby. All you do is waste time Goo, without ever contributing anything of value. For example: In the message I'm replying to you wasted time and contributed nothing of value. For another example: In your next post you will waste time and contribute nothing of value. Etc.............................................
From: dh on 31 Aug 2008 10:48
On Thu, 28 Aug 2008, Goo wrote: >On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:51:16 -0100, dh@. wrote: > >>On Wed, 27 Aug 2008, Goo wrote: >> >>>On Aug 26, 11:45 pm, Rupert <rupertmccal...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >>>> On Aug 26, 9:12 pm, Goo wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> > On Aug 26, 5:22 pm, use...(a)mantra.com and/orwww.mantra.com/jai(Dr. >>>> >>>> > Jai Maharaj) wrote: >>>> > > Fact City 19 >>>> >>>> > > Eating Meat Wastes Our Resources >>>> >>>> > > When it comes to resource and energy wastage, meat products >>>> > > are a class by themselves. >>>> >>>> > > Scientists compute the energy costs of foods by the value >>>> > > of the raw materials consumed in the production of that >>>> > > food. Frances Moore Lappe reports: >>>> >>>> > > A detailed 1978 study sponsored by the Department of >>>> > > Interior and Commerce produced startling figures showing >>>> > > that the value of raw materials consumed to produce food >>>> > > from livestock is greater than the value of all oil, >>>> > > gas, and coal consumed in this country. >>>> >>>> > > The same study revealed the equally startling fact that the >>>> > > production of meats, dairy products and eggs accounts for >>>> > > one-third of the total amount of all raw materials used for >>>> > > all purposes in the United States. >>>> >>>> > > In contrast, growing grains, vegetables and fruits for >>>> > > direct human consumprion is a model of efficiency, using >>>> > > less than 5% the raw material consumption as does the >>>> > > production of meat. >>>> >>>> > > Another way scientists compute the energy costs of various >>>> > > foods is to assess the amount of fossil fuel needed to >>>> > > produce them. An American scientist, David Pimental, >>>> >>>> > Not a scientist, of course. >>>> >>>> > > calculates that if the whole world were to eat according to >>>> > > wasteful U.S. agricultural practices, the planet's entire >>>> > > petroleum reserves would be exhausted in 13 years. >>>> >>>> > So, rupie, once *AGAIN*, we see that the bogus "inefficiency" argument >>>> > is *not* about environmental concerns, but is, as I have always >>>> > maintained, a *BOGUS* argument about resource allocation, and a >>>> > complete *misperception* of the notion of value.- Hide quoted text - >>>> >>>> > - Show quoted text - >>>> >>>> I already conceded everything that needed to be conceded on that >>>> point. >>> >>>No, you fudged and qualified that. >> >> Try to explain just what it is you think you're trying to talk >>about Goo. Go: > >Everything has been explained. You are too stupid to understand. I challenge you to find out if I'm too stupid to understand, by posting whatever it is you think you're trying to talk about now Goo. GO: (Correct prediction: The Goober--as always--will prove himself incapable of trying to explain what he thinks he's trying to talk about.) >>>It was an insincere and phony >>>concession - typical of your intellectual dishonesty. >>> >>> >>>> Could you answer my question in the other thread, please? >>>> >>>> Your decision to take up the hobby of trying to annoy people and waste >>>> their time on the internet: >>> >>>No such hobby. >> >> All you do is waste time Goo, without ever contributing anything >>of value. For example: In the message I'm replying to you wasted >>time and contributed nothing of value. For another example: In >>your next post you will waste time and contribute nothing of value. >>Etc............................................. |