From: Xorra on

Ok, so, last night I went to bed at midnight, and woke up at 3:15. This is
pretty typical. But as I was lying there in bed, I remembered that the
kids' bathroom needed cleaning. And so I got up and did it. And cleaned
ours too. DH woke up of course, even though he was in another room with a
closed door, because he's such a light sleeper. And he came in and asked
me, didn't I think it was weird to be cleaning the bathroom at 4am? And I
said, "Well, it needed to be done, and I'm awake, so what's weird?" I
suggested he go sleep with DS because that room would be quiet. But instead
he laid down on our bed. And a few minutes later asked again. "Don't you
think this is weird?" And then "I think it's clean enough now. Lol --
well, I've been so sad and quick to cry lately, that I don't blame him for
wondering what new craziness this was.

But it gets stranger, because I have been wide awake and full of energy ever
since then. A friend came over and we talked and chatted as I did laundry.
And then went to get the new apartment. And lunch, and groceries, and
picking up the house, and ... you'd almost think I was a normal person!

My friend is newly separated, well a few months altogether, and she said
that she thinks I'm feeling so chipper because of getting the apartment and
being on a high. But maybe the meds finally kicked in? Wouldn't it be nice
if that was it? and this feeling lasted? The third possibility is that I
finally had that breakdown and I'm actually certifiably nuts now.

Xorra


From: AllYou! on
In news:pr-dnXaMF8c7QEbVnZ2dnUVZ_oTinZ2d(a)comcast.com,
Xorra <zorra2(a)comcast.net> mused:
> Ok, so, last night I went to bed at midnight, and woke up at
> 3:15. This is pretty typical. But as I was lying there in bed,
> I remembered that the kids' bathroom needed cleaning. And so I
> got up and did it. And cleaned ours too. DH woke up of course,
> even though he was in another room with a closed door, because
> he's such a light sleeper. And he came in and asked me, didn't
> I think it was weird to be cleaning the bathroom at 4am? And I
> said, "Well, it needed to be done, and I'm awake, so what's
> weird?" I suggested he go sleep with DS because that room would
> be quiet. But instead he laid down on our bed. And a few
> minutes later asked again. "Don't you think this is weird?" And
> then "I think it's clean enough now. Lol -- well, I've been
> so sad and quick to cry lately, that I don't blame him for
> wondering what new craziness this was.
> But it gets stranger, because I have been wide awake and full of
> energy ever since then. A friend came over and we talked and
> chatted as I did laundry. And then went to get the new
> apartment. And lunch, and groceries, and picking up the house,
> and ... you'd almost think I was a normal person!
> My friend is newly separated, well a few months altogether, and
> she said that she thinks I'm feeling so chipper because of
> getting the apartment and being on a high. But maybe the meds
> finally kicked in? Wouldn't it be nice if that was it? and
> this feeling lasted? The third possibility is that I finally
> had that breakdown and I'm actually certifiably nuts now.

I think that you're on a high, which might either be for positive
reasons, or it may be that it's to mask negative reasons. Either
way, be prepared for the low. The body needs a certain amount of
sleep, and so it'll want to catch up, and whatever might be pumping
through your body to give you that high will go away soon, which
might bring you into a low. Bewaree the highs, because it
sometimes, it just makes the lows deeper.


From: Doug Freyburger on
"Xorra" <zor...(a)comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Ok, so, last night I went to bed at midnight, and woke up at 3:15.  This is
> pretty typical.  But as I was lying there in bed, I remembered that the
> kids' bathroom needed cleaning.  And so I got up and did it.  And cleaned
> ours too.  DH woke up of course, even though he was in another room with a
> closed door, because he's such a light sleeper.  And he came in and asked
> me, didn't I think it was weird to be cleaning the bathroom at 4am?  And I
> said, "Well, it needed to be done, and I'm awake, so what's weird?"  I
> suggested he go sleep with DS because that room would be quiet.

So, *IS* it wierd that you do housework when you can't sleep? My
wife and I tend to go to the computer room and do paperwork stuff
in such a case so in our house it would definitely be wierd.

> But instead
> he laid down on our bed.  And a few minutes later asked again.  "Don't you
> think this is weird?"

What's wierd to him - He didn't start the night in that bed.

> And then "I think it's clean enough now.

Which is as close as he can pull off to asking you to come to
the marriage bed with him.

> Lol --  
> well, I've been so sad and quick to cry lately, that I don't blame him for
> wondering what new craziness this was.

Trying to think it through from his perspective that's not the
impression I get at all. I think the cleaning is a trivial detail
compared to the real wierdness of his wife moving out even
if he did see it coming for a long time.

> But it gets stranger, because I have been wide awake and full of energy ever
> since then.  A friend came over and we talked and chatted as I did laundry.
> And then went to get the new apartment.  And lunch, and groceries, and
> picking up the house, and ... you'd almost think I was a normal person!

Perspective from immediately after I left my abusive ex -

I slept 12 hours per day 7 days per week for nearly 3
months. Turns out I no longer expected a kick or getting
screamed at while I was in an undisclosed location so I
could sleep well for a change. But eventually I'd slept off
all the backlog that could be slept off. And the whole time
my attitude while awake grew steadily more friendly.

Compared to now in my happy marriage I don't sleep as
well when I'm away on travel and I look forward to coming
home as soon as possible. It's an enormous change in
my reaction.

If it's your marriage that's been causing your depression
then making the decision and committing to action is
what changed your attitude. It's a giant if.

What my perspective above suggests is the start is a sudden
shift but the physical symptoms should be a slower change.
Just how much my perspective applies to you seems pretty
marginal.

> My friend is newly separated, well a few months altogether, and she said
> that she thinks I'm feeling so chipper because of getting the apartment and
> being on a high.

The day I committed to moving out from my ex I started
feeling better, so yes I do think the commitment to move
out matters as much as the day of doing so.

> But maybe the meds finally kicked in?

That's why it's such a big if. What's the timing on the effects
of the meds compared with the timing of the commitment to
move out?

> Wouldn't it be nice
> if that was it?  and this feeling lasted?

Which "it" is it? The commitment to remove yourself from a
situation that has triggered a gradual decline in your health
or a change in meds with its predictable course of results?
And in the classic "nature versus nuture" debate - My guess
is it's a mixture of both.

> The third possibility is that I
> finally had that breakdown and I'm actually certifiably nuts now.

It is a third possibility. I think it less likely than the two more
obvious choices.
From: Michaela on
Xorra wrote:
> Ok, so, last night I went to bed at midnight, and woke up at 3:15.
> This is pretty typical. But as I was lying there in bed, I
> remembered that the kids' bathroom needed cleaning. And so I got up
> and did it. And cleaned ours too. DH woke up of course, even
though
> he was in another room with a closed door, because he's such a light
> sleeper. And he came in and asked me, didn't I think it was weird
to
> be cleaning the bathroom at 4am? And I said, "Well, it needed to be
> done, and I'm awake, so what's weird?" I suggested he go sleep with
> DS because that room would be quiet. But instead he laid down on
our
> bed. And a few minutes later asked again. "Don't you think this is
> weird?" And then "I think it's clean enough now. Lol -- well, I've
> been so sad and quick to cry lately, that I don't blame him for
> wondering what new craziness this was.
>
> But it gets stranger, because I have been wide awake and full of
> energy ever since then.

I could write one million words on this, but I'll settle for: Do you
think in the past you may have taken his words as a put-down?

I think it's wonderful that you just laughed it off.

- Michaela

A friend came over and we talked and chatted
> as I did laundry. And then went to get the new apartment. And
lunch,
> and groceries, and picking up the house, and ... you'd almost think
I
> was a normal person!
>
> My friend is newly separated, well a few months altogether, and she
> said that she thinks I'm feeling so chipper because of getting the
> apartment and being on a high. But maybe the meds finally kicked
in?
> Wouldn't it be nice if that was it? and this feeling lasted? The
> third possibility is that I finally had that breakdown and I'm
> actually certifiably nuts now.
>
> Xorra

--


From: Bill in Co on
Xorra wrote:
> Ok, so, last night I went to bed at midnight, and woke up at 3:15. This
> is
> pretty typical. But as I was lying there in bed, I remembered that the
> kids' bathroom needed cleaning. And so I got up and did it. And cleaned
> ours too. DH woke up of course, even though he was in another room with a
> closed door, because he's such a light sleeper. And he came in and asked
> me, didn't I think it was weird to be cleaning the bathroom at 4am? And I
> said, "Well, it needed to be done, and I'm awake, so what's weird?" I
> suggested he go sleep with DS because that room would be quiet. But
> instead
> he laid down on our bed. And a few minutes later asked again. "Don't you
> think this is weird?" And then "I think it's clean enough now. Lol --
> well, I've been so sad and quick to cry lately, that I don't blame him for
> wondering what new craziness this was.
>
> But it gets stranger, because I have been wide awake and full of energy
> ever
> since then. A friend came over and we talked and chatted as I did
> laundry.
> And then went to get the new apartment. And lunch, and groceries, and
> picking up the house, and ... you'd almost think I was a normal person!
>
> My friend is newly separated, well a few months altogether, and she said
> that she thinks I'm feeling so chipper because of getting the apartment
> and
> being on a high.

I'm suspecting that IS it. (and feels like a weight has been lifted off
your shoulders with this new sense of freedom).

> But maybe the meds finally kicked in?

I doubt if that's it (since this JUST happened).

> Wouldn't it be nice
> if that was it? and this feeling lasted? The third possibility is that I
> finally had that breakdown and I'm actually certifiably nuts now.
>
> Xorra

Looking at this world more macroscopically, I'm not so convinced it's so bad
to be a bit nuts.