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From: DB on 27 Sep 2008 11:20 "Linda" <linda(a)not4eamil.com> wrote in > Stokes also advises people to start eating things they like such as > peaches, plums or spinach and then slowly incorporate more fresh raw > foods. > She admits the lifestyle can be socially challenging and she encourages > people to connect with other "raw foodists." Why do people think they have to go to such extremes, just eat real food and stay away from the packaged garbage!!!!!
From: DB on 28 Sep 2008 16:42 "Rudy Canoza" <pipes(a)thedismalscience.noot> wrote in message news:Q6adnYjH2J3cwkPVnZ2dnUVZ_tTinZ2d(a)earthlink.com... > DB wrote: >> "Linda" <linda(a)not4eamil.com> wrote in >> >>> Stokes also advises people to start eating things they like such as >>> peaches, plums or spinach and then slowly incorporate more fresh raw >>> foods. >>> She admits the lifestyle can be socially challenging and she encourages >>> people to connect with other "raw foodists." >> >> >> Why do people think they have to go to such extremes, just eat real food >> and stay away from the packaged garbage!!!!! > > Exactly. There is no great mystery to weight loss: consume fewer > calories than you expend. You can do that by some combination of > reduction of caloric intake and increase in exercise. It just isn't that > hard. People who weigh twice what they should, as this woman apparently > did, do *not* get to that state due to some "hormone" issue or having the > "wrong body type". I agree, people tend to pass on the blame other than themselves! Getting of the couch is just too hard for them. > The blowpig in this story didn't lose weight because of eating a "raw" > diet; that claim is bullshit. She was starving herself, there's no need for that!!!!!!!!!1
From: dh on 29 Sep 2008 07:04 On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 08:20:10 -0700, "DB" <DeeBee(a)netscape.net> wrote: > >"Linda" <linda(a)not4eamil.com> wrote in > >> Stokes also advises people to start eating things they like such as >> peaches, plums or spinach and then slowly incorporate more fresh raw >> foods. >> She admits the lifestyle can be socially challenging and she encourages >> people to connect with other "raw foodists." > > >Why do people think they have to go to such extremes, There are several different reasons and ideas going on here. 1. The objective - to lose weight. But. As the person loses weight, supposedly, other things become significant aspects and considerations. 2. The method - Raw or not, you and Goobernicus have a good point that the main thing is to burn more than you consume. To what extent is what matters. How exactly, determines the extent. Why to choose different methods becomes less significant to the outcome but still can be significant to the person. Maybe people like the raw thing as an adventure or something. Grazing and foraging satisfies some of their instincts. I feel confident that women like shopping because it satisfies their gathering instincts, and men like sports... 3. The ethics - is this person suggesting raw fish? It seems like "vegan" got thrown in there somewhere along the way. People don't become vegan for health reasons at all. That involves not using animal products of any kind when possible, which isn't something a person would do to lose weight. But. � Vegans contribute to the deaths of animals by their use of wood and paper products, electricity, roads and all types of buildings, their own diet, etc... just as everyone else does. What they try to avoid are products which provide life (and death) for farm animals, but even then they would have to avoid the following items containing animal by-products in order to be successful: Tires, Paper, Upholstery, Floor waxes, Glass, Water Filters, Rubber, Fertilizer, Antifreeze, Ceramics, Insecticides, Insulation, Linoleum, Plastic, Textiles, Blood factors, Collagen, Heparin, Insulin, Solvents, Biodegradable Detergents, Herbicides, Gelatin Capsules, Adhesive Tape, Laminated Wood Products, Plywood, Paneling, Wallpaper and Wallpaper Paste, Cellophane Wrap and Tape, Abrasives, Steel Ball Bearings The meat industry provides life for the animals that it slaughters, and the animals live and die as a result of it as animals do in other habitats. They also depend on it for their lives as animals do in other habitats. If people consume animal products from animals they think are raised in decent ways, they will be promoting life for more such animals in the future. People who want to contribute to decent lives for livestock with their lifestyle must do it by being conscientious consumers of animal products, because they can not do it by being vegan. From the life and death of a thousand pound grass raised steer and whatever he happens to kill during his life, people get over 500 pounds of human consumable meat...that's well over 500 servings of meat. From a grass raised dairy cow people get thousands of dairy servings. Due to the influence of farm machinery, and *icides, and in the case of rice the flooding and draining of fields, one serving of soy or rice based product is likely to involve more animal deaths than hundreds of servings derived from grass raised animals. Grass raised animal products contribute to fewer wildlife deaths, better wildlife habitat, and better lives for livestock than soy or rice products. � >just eat real food and stay away from the packaged garbage!!!!! I wouldn't even matter about that if a person pays attention.
From: Seth on 29 Sep 2008 16:23 In article <Q6adnYjH2J3cwkPVnZ2dnUVZ_tTinZ2d(a)earthlink.com>, Rudy Canoza <pierre(a)frankreich.fr> wrote: >The blowpig in this story didn't lose weight because of eating a "raw" >diet; that claim is bullshit. It's true. Raw food is relatively low-calorie (can you imagine eating 200 calories of celery)? And since it doesn't taste good, you're less likely to overeat. Seth -- "There is no such thing as an essential carbohydrate" -- Will Brink Except sushi rice, seaweed, and wasabi.
From: pearl on 29 Sep 2008 16:35
Seth wrote: > Raw food is relatively low-calorie (can you imagine eating 200 > calories of celery)? And since it doesn't taste good, you're less > likely to overeat. This sounds delicious... 'Celery Slaw & Dressing by Dr. Douglas Graham Ingredients 1 large bunch of celery 2 red bell peppers 3 or 4 tomatoes 4 oz fresh walnuts Instructions 1. Grate the celery and peppers and place in bowl. 2. Blend the tomatoes and walnuts and use as dressing. *** http://www.living-foods.com/recipes/ *** |