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From: Psilocybe cyanescens on 19 May 2006 03:27 I tested fully diabetic for the first time today. I've been pre-diabetic for several years, and last week my glucose level peaked at 193 after a meal. Today at lunch it peaked at 219 and took nearly 3 hours to drop to 110. Then at dinner I ate a similar composition meal (mostly meat and rice) and my glucose peaked at around 160 and took about 2 hours to drop to 104. Is glucose spiking dependent on whether it is your first or subsequent meals of the day? I should add that I had a few beers with dinner, I would think the carbs in the beer would cause it to spike even higher.
From: Nicky on 19 May 2006 03:44 "Psilocybe cyanescens" <trip(a)shroom.org> wrote in message news:_rebg.18764$Lm5.15256(a)newssvr12.news.prodigy.com... >I tested fully diabetic for the first time today. I've been > pre-diabetic for several years, and last week my glucose > level peaked at 193 after a meal. Ow! It's long past time you restricted carbs. This is how to work out what's good food for you: http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/Newly%20Diagnosed.htm And why: http://www.geocities.com/lottadata4u/bloodsugartargets.htm > Is glucose spiking dependent on whether it is your first or > subsequent meals of the day? I should add that I had a few > beers with dinner, I would think the carbs in the beer would > cause it to spike even higher. Insulin resistance is generally worse at breakfast time in the morning, making you least carb tolerant then. This is the reverse of non-diabetics, btw. Alcohol turns off the liver's steady glucose trickle in to your blood. Beer is an interesting drink, because the timings of the carbs vs the alcohol can be wildly variable. Wine is more predictable; a glass or two of wine daily has cardio benefits, as well as bg ones : ) You are reviewing your exercise routine, aren't you? It's absolutely essential for diabetics. If you're currently sedentary, try a short walk an hour after lunch and dinner, and watch those high numbers drop. What happens is that used muscles suck glucose out of your blood however insulin resistant you are. Strength training of some kind is a very good plan. Nicky. -- A1c 10.5/5.4/<6 T2 DX 05/2004 1g Metformin, 100ug Thyroxine 95/73/72Kg
From: Psilocybe cyanescens on 19 May 2006 04:06 Nicky wrote... > Insulin resistance is generally worse at breakfast time in the morning, > making you least carb tolerant then. This is the reverse of non-diabetics, > btw. Alcohol turns off the liver's steady glucose trickle in to your blood. > Beer is an interesting drink, because the timings of the carbs vs the > alcohol can be wildly variable. Wine is more predictable; a glass or two of > wine daily has cardio benefits, as well as bg ones : ) > > You are reviewing your exercise routine, aren't you? It's absolutely > essential for diabetics. If you're currently sedentary, try a short walk an > hour after lunch and dinner, and watch those high numbers drop. What happens > is that used muscles suck glucose out of your blood however insulin > resistant you are. Strength training of some kind is a very good plan. Thanks for the info! I recently switched from a very active job to a very sedentary one, and gained about 20lbs in the process. When I originally tested pre-diabetic I was about 20-30lbs heavier than at the active job, and while at the active job I never went above 135 despite how many carbs I had ingested. I also have high blood pressure that gets better and worse depending on exercise and weight. I do enjoy walking, and I have a mountain bike but am not in good enough shape to ride very long. I'll try your advice and though I can't hike or bike at work, I'll try a few jumping jacks and see if that helps. I always skip breakfast, lunch is my first meal of the day. Should I attempt to eliminate most carbs from lunch or can I just take a very long time to eat and munch on just a few carbs at a time over several hours?
From: oldal4865 on 19 May 2006 07:10 Psilocybe cyanescens wrote in message ... >Nicky wrote... >> Insulin resistance is generally worse at breakfast time in the morning, >> making you least carb tolerant then. This is the reverse of non-diabetics, >> btw. Alcohol turns off the liver's steady glucose trickle in to your blood. >> Beer is an interesting drink, because the timings of the carbs vs the >> alcohol can be wildly variable. Wine is more predictable; a glass or two of >> wine daily has cardio benefits, as well as bg ones : ) >> >> You are reviewing your exercise routine, aren't you? It's absolutely >> essential for diabetics. If you're currently sedentary, try a short walk an >> hour after lunch and dinner, and watch those high numbers drop. What happens >> is that used muscles suck glucose out of your blood however insulin >> resistant you are. Strength training of some kind is a very good plan. > >Thanks for the info! I recently switched from a very active job to a >very sedentary one, and gained about 20lbs in the process. When I >originally tested pre-diabetic I was about 20-30lbs heavier than at the >active job, and while at the active job I never went above 135 despite >how many carbs I had ingested. I also have high blood pressure that >gets better and worse depending on exercise and weight. > >I do enjoy walking, and I have a mountain bike but am not in good enough >shape to ride very long. I'll try your advice and though I can't hike >or bike at work, I'll try a few jumping jacks and see if that helps. > >I always skip breakfast, lunch is my first meal of the day. Should I >attempt to eliminate most carbs from lunch or can I just take a very >long time to eat and munch on just a few carbs at a time over several >hours? Skipping breakfast may produce high blood sugars all morning (thanks to your ever helpful liver). A small, zero-carb breakfast often "shuts down" the Morning Effect which causes such high sugars in diabetics. You find out by testing. Testing and experimenting as per Jenny's site for the newly diagnosed right now is really a life-changing (life-saving ?) option for you. Sorry that you can't "hike" at work. How about stairs? I was once stuck in a two-story motel on a stormy night and no exercise equipment or the like to help me knock down my sugars. I just walked up and down that flight of stairs until I had worked off the sugars. Daily exercise is like a miracle therapy for a Type 2 diabetic. If you can squeeze in a vigorous session of "something or other", the effect can last for hours, perhaps days. The more vigorous the exercise, the more lasting the effect. Daily is important too. Some faintly humorous advice to a newly-diagnosed T2: "Become an Aerobics Instructor and come back on your 85th birthday for more advice." Only faintly humorous because I know two instructors who are testing the concept. It's working so far. . .excellent control on no meds and few diet restrictions. Regards Old Al
From: Priscilla H. Ballou on 19 May 2006 13:05
In article <_rebg.18764$Lm5.15256(a)newssvr12.news.prodigy.com>, Psilocybe cyanescens <trip(a)shroom.org> wrote: > I tested fully diabetic for the first time today. I've been > pre-diabetic for several years, and last week my glucose > level peaked at 193 after a meal. Today at lunch it peaked > at 219 and took nearly 3 hours to drop to 110. Then at > dinner I ate a similar composition meal (mostly meat and > rice) and my glucose peaked at around 160 and took about 2 > hours to drop to 104. Sounds like you may have been diabetic for a while. What have your fasting BGs been like? Priscilla |