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From: firemonkey on 26 Sep 2008 20:22
http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/09/26/why-labour-voters-ought-to-think-again/

"eah, I figured that headline would get the attention of some of you.
Cory Doctorow has posted what it�s like to be on the sharp end of
Labour�s current policies. Because I know that some of you won�t be
arsed to click the link, I�m going to copy and paste.

Earlier this year, I married my British fianc�e and switched my
visa status from �Highly Skilled Migrant� to �Spouse.� This wasn�t
optional: Jacqui Smith, the British Home Secretary, had unilaterally
(and on 24 hours� notice) changed the rules for Highly Skilled Migrants
to require a university degree, sending hundreds of long-term,
productive residents of the UK away (my immigration lawyers had a client
who employed over 100 Britons, had fathered two British children, and
was nonetheless forced to leave the country, leaving the 100 jobless).
Smith took this decision over howls of protests from the House of Lords
and Parliament, who repeatedly sued her to change the rule back, winning
victory after victory, but Smith kept on appealing (at tax-payer
expense) until the High Court finally ordered her to relent (too late
for me, alas).

Now, it seems, I will become one of the first people in Britain to
be forced to carry a mandatory biometric RFID card in a pilot programme
being deployed first to foreign students and we spousal visa holders
(government is looking to curtail spousal visas altogether, capping all
visas at 20,000 per year, including spousal visas, denying Britons the
right to bring their spouses into the country once the quota has been
filled). The card will be eventually linked to all of the national
databases � credit, health, driving, spending. These are the same
databases that the government has been repeatedly losing and
haemmorhaging by the tens of million (literally).

My family fled the Soviet Union after the war. They were displaced
people (my father was born in a refugee camp in Azerbaijan) who
destroyed their papers to protect themselves from the draconian
authorities who sought to limit their travel and migration. I used to
think it was ironic that my family had gone from Europe to Canada and
back to Europe again in a generation, but now I don�t know how long the
Doctorows will be staying in Europe � or at least in the UK. The green
and pleasant land has suspended habeas corpus, instituted street
searches without particularlized suspicion, encourages its citizens to
spy and snitch on each other, and now has issued mandatory universal
papers that will track we dirty immigrants as we move around our adopted
�home,� as part of a xenophobic campaign to arouse fear and resentment
against migrants.

Many of my British friends act as if I�m crazy when I say that we
must defeat Labour in the next election. We�re all good lefties, and a
vote for the LibDems is considered tantamount to handing the country
over to the Tories. But what could the Tories do that would trump what
Labour has made of the country? The Labour Party has made a police state
with a melting economy, a place where rampant xenophobia makes
foreigners less and less welcome � where we are made to hand over our
biometrics and carry papers as we conduct our lawful business. The only
mainstream party to speak out against this measure is the LibDems, and
they will have my vote.

To my friends, I say this: your Labour Party has taken my
biometrics and will force me to carry the papers my grandparents
destroyed when they fled the Soviet Union. In living memory, my family
has been chased from its home by governments whose policies and
justification the Labour Party has aped. Your Labour Party has made me
afraid in Britain, and has made me seriously reconsider my settlement
here. I am the father of a British citizen and the husband of a British
citizen. I pay my tax. I am a natural-born citizen of the Commonwealth.
The Labour Party ought not to treat me � nor any other migrant � in a
way that violates our fundamental liberties. The Labour Party is
unmaking Britain, turning it into the surveillance society that
Britain�s foremost prophet of doom, George Orwell, warned against.
Labour admits that we migrants are only the first step, and that every
indignity that they visit upon us will be visited upon you, too. If you
want to live and thrive in a free country, you must defend us too: we
must all hang together, or we will surely hang separately.

How in the hell can any of you who post on this site even consider
voting for the sort of party that DOES that? I can understand you being
a party member, because, you know, change them from the inside and all,
but voting for them? How can any of you justify it to yourselves? I
would like an explanation, because I just. Don�t. Get it."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cory_Doctorow
http://craphound.com/bio.php
From: Evil_Nigel on 27 Sep 2008 07:56
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On Sep 27, 1:22 am, firemonkey <firemon...(a)gatty.me.uk> wrote:
> http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/09/26/why-labour-voters-ought-t...

I think this country is full; we're allegedly the most densely
populated in Yerp and yet the immigrants keep coming, attracted by our
reputation for soft benefits. There are thousands around Calais, in
contravention of EU law which the indolent frogs are in no hurry to
enforce, trying nightly to stow away on trucks and trains headed for
the Channel Tunnel.

One problem nulab are trying to solve is that of Brit-Asian girl
children undergoing forced marriages to first cousins from their
'home' country, who subsequently have the right to come and live in
the UK. Specific action is impossible because it's seen as racist.

I don't know the answer, but their current solution is wrong - it
hurts people who have integrated and made major contributions to the
UK. My favourite Thai restaurant used to bring staff over from
Thailand to work in their restaurant for three years - the workers
would learn English and study at college for a qualification to take
home with them while diners got excellent cuisine and service. Now
they can't do that any more because immigration quotas won't let them.

I'd beware of Tory promises to scrap ID cards. Am I the only person in
the country to remember their promise to scrap the Livingstongrad
congestion tax?

I'm afraid anyone in the UK who values freedom and privacy is being
royally f*ck*d.

Evil Nigel

PS If I can get a big enough magnet, will it wreck an ID card?
From: Pub L on 27 Sep 2008 12:19
Naughty_Nigel(a)hotmail.co.uk wrote:
> x-no-archive: yes
>

>
> I think this country is full; we're allegedly the most densely
> populated in Yerp and yet the immigrants keep coming, attracted by our
> reputation for soft benefits.

And we have yet to deal with our own freeloaders huh.........
From: Rowland McDonnell on 28 Sep 2008 16:01
Pub L <pub.landlord(a)spam.trap> wrote:

[snip malice]

It's best for all to ignore the ravings of this malicious toad.

It's got nothing but ill-will towards all who post here, and is
motivated purely by a desire to spread hatred and dissention, causing
posters here to bicker amongst each other for its own private amusement.

The world would be a better place if it kept its dishonest malicious
ravings to itself.

Rowland.


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From: Rowland McDonnell on 28 Sep 2008 16:42
[snip malice]

It's best for all to ignore the ravings of this malicious toad.

It's got nothing but ill-will towards all who post here, and is
motivated purely by a desire to spread hatred and dissention, causing
posters here to bicker amongst each other for its own private amusement.

The world would be a better place if it kept its dishonest malicious
ravings to itself.

Rowland.


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