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From: disabled.bc on 3 Feb 2007 17:37 I've been reading as many old posts as I could find on this topic, along with numerous web pages relating to whole milk. At least one post said that the calcium in homogenized, or pasturized milk can't be absorbed by people? Here in Canada, I understand that we can't buy whole milk because of fears over contamination by such things as e.coli and having recently been investigating the use of ultraviolet light for water contaminated by e.coli, I've been wondering what negative or positive effects ultraviolet light would have on whole milk as compared to homoginization, or pasturization? Like many people, I've aways thought of irradiation of foods as a bad thing and something involving the passing of the food product through some radioactive source such as plutonium. It wasn't until I read a post that mentioned the exposure of whole milk to ultraviolet light is referred to as irradiation, that I had a change of heart over this issue to some degree. Knowing that U.V. light is used in treating sources of water using in bottled water and things like apple juice, etc, makes the thought of irradiation a little more palletable. Anyway, I'm wondering if a final conclusion has been drawn over the issue and what pro's and con's are still in question? Thanks for your time! D.BC
From: TC on 3 Feb 2007 22:46 On Feb 3, 4:37 pm, disabled...(a)hotmail.com wrote: > I've been reading as many old posts as I could find on this topic, > along with numerous web pages > relating to whole milk. At least one post said that the calcium in > homogenized, or pasturized milk can't be absorbed by people? > > Here in Canada, I understand that we can't buy whole milk because of > fears over contamination by such things as e.coli and having recently > been investigating the use of ultraviolet light for water contaminated > by e.coli, I've been wondering what negative or positive effects > ultraviolet light would have on whole milk as compared to > homoginization, or pasturization? Hang on there. There is fresh whole milk straight from the cow, usually called raw milk. Extremely healthy stuff. Then you have homogenized milk where the fat globules, which are naturally of varying sizes, are forced thru tiny holes and broken up into smaller similar shaped globules. This stops the milk from separating into cream and milk. Then you have regular pasteurization which kills off bacteria thru high temperature treatment. It diminishes the quality of the milk significantly and lengthens its shelf life, which is why the milk industry loves it. Then we have Ultra High Temperature pasteurization, ehich really destroys all the milks food value, renders it a dead entity that can sit on the shelf at room temperature for months. Even bugs won't eat it. The milk industry absolutely loves this and are lobbying to make it mandatory in the US that all milk be killed of this way. > > Like many people, I've aways thought of irradiation of foods as a bad > thing and something involving the passing of the food product through > some radioactive source such as plutonium. It wasn't until I read a > post that mentioned the exposure of whole milk to ultraviolet light is > referred to as irradiation, that I had a change of heart over this > issue to some degree. Knowing that U.V. light is used in treating > sources of water using in bottled water and things like apple juice, > etc, makes the thought of irradiation a little more palletable. > > Anyway, I'm wondering if a final conclusion has been drawn over the > issue and what pro's and con's are still in question? > > Thanks for your time! > D.BC If you want healthy milk, avoid all the processing and get real fresh raw milk. Thousands upon thousands of small farm families raised millions of children with real fresh raw milk without even a hint of the disease seen in industrial milk production before the advent of boiling or steaming the milk to death. Real food = real health. TC
From: Szczepan Bialek on 4 Feb 2007 05:18 "TC" wrote> > If you want healthy milk, avoid all the processing and get real fresh > raw milk. Thousands upon thousands of small farm families raised > millions of children with real fresh raw milk It is not full truth. In small farm families children and adult drink (and eat) that uppert part of the raw milk which, as you wrote above, separate into cream and milk. The lower (skimmed milk) is for pigs. For adult cream is better than milk. S*
From: NoOption5L on 4 Feb 2007 17:05 On Feb 3, 9:46 pm, "TC" <tunder...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: Humans have been consuming goat's milk longer than cow's milk. Drink from the goat. Patrick > On Feb 3, 4:37 pm, disabled...(a)hotmail.com wrote: > > > I've been reading as many old posts as I could find on this topic, > > along with numerous web pages > > relating to whole milk. At least one post said that the calcium in > > homogenized, or pasturized milk can't be absorbed by people? > > > Here in Canada, I understand that we can't buy whole milk because of > > fears over contamination by such things as e.coli and having recently > > been investigating the use of ultraviolet light for water contaminated > > by e.coli, I've been wondering what negative or positive effects > > ultraviolet light would have on whole milk as compared to > > homoginization, or pasturization? > > Hang on there. There is fresh whole milk straight from the cow, > usually called raw milk. Extremely healthy stuff. > > Then you have homogenized milk where the fat globules, which are > naturally of varying sizes, are forced thru tiny holes and broken up > into smaller similar shaped globules. This stops the milk from > separating into cream and milk. > > Then you have regular pasteurization which kills off bacteria thru > high temperature treatment. It diminishes the quality of the milk > significantly and lengthens its shelf life, which is why the milk > industry loves it. > > Then we have Ultra High Temperature pasteurization, ehich really > destroys all the milks food value, renders it a dead entity that can > sit on the shelf at room temperature for months. Even bugs won't eat > it. The milk industry absolutely loves this and are lobbying to make > it mandatory in the US that all milk be killed of this way. > > > > > Like many people, I've aways thought of irradiation of foods as a bad > > thing and something involving the passing of the food product through > > some radioactive source such as plutonium. It wasn't until I read a > > post that mentioned the exposure of whole milk to ultraviolet light is > > referred to as irradiation, that I had a change of heart over this > > issue to some degree. Knowing that U.V. light is used in treating > > sources of water using in bottled water and things like apple juice, > > etc, makes the thought of irradiation a little more palletable. > > > Anyway, I'm wondering if a final conclusion has been drawn over the > > issue and what pro's and con's are still in question? > > > Thanks for your time! > > D.BC > > If you want healthy milk, avoid all the processing and get real fresh > raw milk. Thousands upon thousands of small farm families raised > millions of children with real fresh raw milk without even a hint of > the disease seen in industrial milk production before the advent of > boiling or steaming the milk to death. > > Real food = real health. > > TC
From: TC on 5 Feb 2007 10:01
Knock yerself out. TC On Feb 4, 4:05 pm, NoOptio...(a)aol.com wrote: > On Feb 3, 9:46 pm, "TC" <tunder...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > Humans have been consuming goat's milk longer than cow's milk. Drink > from the goat. > > Patrick > > > > > On Feb 3, 4:37 pm, disabled...(a)hotmail.com wrote: > > > > I've been reading as many old posts as I could find on this topic, > > > along with numerous web pages > > > relating to whole milk. At least one post said that the calcium in > > > homogenized, or pasturized milk can't be absorbed by people? > > > > Here in Canada, I understand that we can't buy whole milk because of > > > fears over contamination by such things as e.coli and having recently > > > been investigating the use of ultraviolet light for water contaminated > > > by e.coli, I've been wondering what negative or positive effects > > > ultraviolet light would have on whole milk as compared to > > > homoginization, or pasturization? > > > Hang on there. There is fresh whole milk straight from the cow, > > usually called raw milk. Extremely healthy stuff. > > > Then you have homogenized milk where the fat globules, which are > > naturally of varying sizes, are forced thru tiny holes and broken up > > into smaller similar shaped globules. This stops the milk from > > separating into cream and milk. > > > Then you have regular pasteurization which kills off bacteria thru > > high temperature treatment. It diminishes the quality of the milk > > significantly and lengthens its shelf life, which is why the milk > > industry loves it. > > > Then we have Ultra High Temperature pasteurization, ehich really > > destroys all the milks food value, renders it a dead entity that can > > sit on the shelf at room temperature for months. Even bugs won't eat > > it. The milk industry absolutely loves this and are lobbying to make > > it mandatory in the US that all milk be killed of this way. > > > > Like many people, I've aways thought of irradiation of foods as a bad > > > thing and something involving the passing of the food product through > > > some radioactive source such as plutonium. It wasn't until I read a > > > post that mentioned the exposure of whole milk to ultraviolet light is > > > referred to as irradiation, that I had a change of heart over this > > > issue to some degree. Knowing that U.V. light is used in treating > > > sources of water using in bottled water and things like apple juice, > > > etc, makes the thought of irradiation a little more palletable. > > > > Anyway, I'm wondering if a final conclusion has been drawn over the > > > issue and what pro's and con's are still in question? > > > > Thanks for your time! > > > D.BC > > > If you want healthy milk, avoid all the processing and get real fresh > > raw milk. Thousands upon thousands of small farm families raised > > millions of children with real fresh raw milk without even a hint of > > the disease seen in industrial milk production before the advent of > > boiling or steaming the milk to death. > > > Real food = real health. > > > TC- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - |