From: Jason Carlton on
I've been using whey protein for about 18 months now, but have
recently increased my intake to 3 shakes a day (instead of 2).

After the increase, I've started noticing a rather odd problem,
though. About 15 minutes after drinking it, my face, neck, and
shoulders get a little tingly / itchy / burny. This was particular
tough yesterday when doing bench press; for the first 20 minutes of
the workout, I was so itchy that I couldn't really concentrate on the
workout!

The protein I'm taking (GNC brand) does have a lot of amino acids in
it (arginine, alanine, leucine, and a bunch of other -ines), but not
taurine, and I don't think that any of the others are specifically an
energy booster.

Do you guys think that this is something that my body will adjust to,
or is it an indicator of an allergy or other problem?
From: Omelet on
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<44c283e8-34d5-42de-882c-64e6fede04ee(a)8g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
Jason Carlton <jwcarlton(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> I've been using whey protein for about 18 months now, but have
> recently increased my intake to 3 shakes a day (instead of 2).
>
> After the increase, I've started noticing a rather odd problem,
> though. About 15 minutes after drinking it, my face, neck, and
> shoulders get a little tingly / itchy / burny. This was particular
> tough yesterday when doing bench press; for the first 20 minutes of
> the workout, I was so itchy that I couldn't really concentrate on the
> workout!
>
> The protein I'm taking (GNC brand) does have a lot of amino acids in
> it (arginine, alanine, leucine, and a bunch of other -ines), but not
> taurine, and I don't think that any of the others are specifically an
> energy booster.
>
> Do you guys think that this is something that my body will adjust to,
> or is it an indicator of an allergy or other problem?

Allergies can't be ruled out... What are you mixing it with?

Have you tried another brand?
--
Peace! Om

"Human nature seems to be to control other people
until they put their foot down." -- Stephan Rothstein
From: Jason Carlton on
> > Do you guys think that this is something that my body will adjust to,
> > or is it an indicator of an allergy or other problem?
>
> Allergies can't be ruled out... What are you mixing it with?

I was mixing with 2% milk, but then I started thinking about the extra
calories so I started mixing with water. I'm having the same problem
either way, so I don't think it's a lactose intolerance or anything
like that.


> Have you tried another brand?

I do use Pro Slam shots just before the workout on bench-press and
squat day just because I'm not quite a sloshy during the workout, but
have the same tingly feeling afterward. Of course, those probably have
the same (if not more) amino acids, so it doesn't rule anything out.

I have used other brands in the past, but not since I increased the
dosage. I've used the GNC brand for about 6 months, though, on the
lower dosage, because at buy-one-get-one-half-off, it's been cheaper
than anything else I've found.

Thanks, Om,

Jason
From: Omelet on
In article
<7f197429-45f5-437f-86be-07da69cb73c6(a)y21g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
Jason Carlton <jwcarlton(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> > > Do you guys think that this is something that my body will adjust to,
> > > or is it an indicator of an allergy or other problem?
> >
> > Allergies can't be ruled out... What are you mixing it with?
>
> I was mixing with 2% milk, but then I started thinking about the extra
> calories so I started mixing with water. I'm having the same problem
> either way, so I don't think it's a lactose intolerance or anything
> like that.
>
>
> > Have you tried another brand?
>
> I do use Pro Slam shots just before the workout on bench-press and
> squat day just because I'm not quite a sloshy during the workout, but
> have the same tingly feeling afterward. Of course, those probably have
> the same (if not more) amino acids, so it doesn't rule anything out.
>
> I have used other brands in the past, but not since I increased the
> dosage. I've used the GNC brand for about 6 months, though, on the
> lower dosage, because at buy-one-get-one-half-off, it's been cheaper
> than anything else I've found.
>
> Thanks, Om,
>
> Jason

Hmmmm... Back when I first started weight lifting and following a high
protein diet, I started having issues with nocturnal quadricep cramping.
Very painful. Sometimes when you do extra protein, you get an increased
calcium loss thru the kidneys. The milk gave you that extra calcium.

When mom and I used to donate platelets at the blood bank, they used a
calcium chelator in the IV line to keep the blood running thru the
machine from clotting. They remove your blood, separate out the
platelets, then return your blood to you thru the lines.

The warned you that if your lips or arms started tingling to tell them.
It meant too much calcium was being tied up. Their "cure" was to stuff a
handful of tums or rolaids into your mouth to bring the blood levels
back up quickly.

Calcium taken by itself is not really used as well as a balanced
multi-mineral that balances Calcium, Magnesium and Phosphorous according
to my old nutrition guru. ;-) He was right.

My quad cramping did not go away when I took just calcium. It went away
when I started taking a balanced multi-mineral ("NOW" brand full
spectrum minerals).

While I'm not entirely sure that is your problem, (far be it to anyone
to listen to or give medical advice on usenet <g>), you may consider
taking such a supplement with your shake and see if the problem goes
away...

Cheers! :-)
--
Peace! Om

"Human nature seems to be to control other people
until they put their foot down." -- Stephan Rothstein
From: Jason Carlton on
> Hmmmm... Back when I first started weight lifting and following a high
> protein diet, I started having issues with nocturnal quadricep cramping.
> Very painful. Sometimes when you do extra protein, you get an increased
> calcium loss thru the kidneys. The milk gave you that extra calcium.
>
> When mom and I used to donate platelets at the blood bank, they used a
> calcium chelator in the IV line to keep the blood running thru the
> machine from clotting. They remove your blood, separate out the
> platelets, then return your blood to you thru the lines.
>
> The warned you that if your lips or arms started tingling to tell them.
> It meant too much calcium was being tied up. Their "cure" was to stuff a
> handful of tums or rolaids into your mouth to bring the blood levels
> back up quickly.
>
> Calcium taken by itself is not really used as well as a balanced
> multi-mineral that balances Calcium, Magnesium and Phosphorous according
> to my old nutrition guru. ;-)  He was right.
>
> My quad cramping did not go away when I took just calcium.  It went away
> when I started taking a balanced multi-mineral ("NOW" brand full
> spectrum minerals).
>
> While I'm not entirely sure that is your problem, (far be it to anyone
> to listen to or give medical advice on usenet <g>), you may consider
> taking such a supplement with your shake and see if the problem goes
> away...

I used to take coral calcium as a thermogenic, but stopped a couple of
months ago because I wasn't really noticing a difference. At first I
did, but my body adjusted pretty quickly. I have been taking a
multivitamin for awhile, but I haven't thought to check on the level
of calcium in it.

Now that you mention it, though, I remember many years ago when I
first started lifting, I had problems with my right elbow just locking
up in the middle of a lift. After much guesswork, it was finally
attributed to calcium deposits. So it does seem logical that my body
doesn't really work with calcium the way that it should, so I think
I'll try adjusting the multivitamin and see what happens.

Thanks for the tip! I'll let you know how it goes after a couple of
weeks.