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From: yamuna on 8 Nov 2005 22:33 Both western and eastern societies. It seems that some eastern societies, for the most part, get more and more rigid in their social structure giving in to the strict rules of customs - Indians would tell you how marraige is a contract between two families not just between the bride and groom - while in the western ones, people become more and more isolated. While people are aware of arranged marraige in Indain society (and in fact South Asian sicieties), the business-like marraige in Chinese societies go unnoticed. An aunt of my high school classmate and alos college classmate - they are Chinese - married a US citizen with no college degree by paying $100,000 so that she could come to US and do residency in Medicine while her mother-in-law baby sit their child while she's at work. A college classmate of my brother, a Chinese, married a Chinese lady who went to Taiwan - those days, Taiwan was absorbing people of Chinese origin with some desired qualities- so that he could go to Taiwan. I don't know much about African culture nor Latino ones but I am sure that they don't have a good balance either. Frankly, the southeast Asian soceities are much more flexible than the South Asian and Chinese societies. Even the Chinese and Indians in Southeast Asia have become less rigid such that they started mingling, within their group, of what they once considered inferior status/background. Of course there are families like us, who didn't quite fit in even in the community we belong to via similar culture/ religious background who became more isolated when moved to a foreign country just like the people of the main stream society of that country. So it became my interest to figure out what caused this isolation of people in the main stream soceity of this country and other western coutries in similar situation. I am curious to know your opinion on the cause.
From: Your Name Here=Harvey on 9 Nov 2005 05:37 In article <1131507188.529805.225660(a)o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>, yamunamyint(a)yahoo.com says... > >Both western and eastern societies. > >It seems that some eastern societies, for the most part, get more and >more rigid in their social structure giving in to the strict rules of >customs - Indians would tell you how marraige is a contract between two >families not just between the bride and groom - while in the western >ones, people become more and more isolated. > >While people are aware of arranged marraige in Indain society (and in >fact South Asian sicieties), the business-like marraige in Chinese >societies go unnoticed. An aunt of my high school classmate and alos >college classmate - they are Chinese - married a US citizen with no >college degree by paying $100,000 so that she could come to US and do >residency in Medicine while her mother-in-law baby sit their child >while she's at work. A college classmate of my brother, a Chinese, >married a Chinese lady who went to Taiwan - those days, Taiwan was >absorbing people of Chinese origin with some desired qualities- so that >he could go to Taiwan. > >I don't know much about African culture nor Latino ones but I am sure >that they don't have a good balance either. > > >Frankly, the southeast Asian soceities are much more flexible than the >South Asian and Chinese societies. Even the Chinese and Indians in >Southeast Asia have become less rigid such that they started mingling, >within their group, of what they once considered inferior >status/background. > >Of course there are families like us, who didn't quite fit in even in >the community we belong to via similar culture/ religious background >who became more isolated when moved to a foreign country just like the >people of the main stream society of that country. > >So it became my interest to figure out what caused this isolation of >people in the main stream soceity of this country and other western >coutries in similar situation. I am curious to know your opinion on >the cause. > I think it is good for the intermingling of races and cultures so that one day unity and peace will come... Here is a poem I came across a long time ago, don't know if I remembered it correctly or not? It does not mention the brown race, though. Yellow is that man and one of daytime white Red is that man and one of dark night The four main colours of man Tomorrow's unity will come with the Race of Tan Harvey I would amend it to Yellow is that man and one of daytime white Red is that man and one of dark night And the brown skinned race. The five main colours of man Tomorrow's unity will come with the Race of Tan
From: yamuna on 9 Nov 2005 10:33 Your Name Here=Harvey wrote: > In article <1131507188.529805.225660(a)o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>, > yamunamyint(a)yahoo.com says... > > [..] > > I think it is good for the intermingling of races and cultures > so that one day unity and peace will come... I did too for the same purpose but I have learned to realize that human will find other reasons to be prejudiced about even if we all are the same ethnically and culturally. so though I have no objection to mixing races, I think we need to do more to have *happier* societies. [..]
From: Your Name Here=Harvey on 9 Nov 2005 21:51 In article <1131550426.406850.108820(a)g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, yamunamyint(a)yahoo.com says... > > >Your Name Here=Harvey wrote: >> In article <1131507188.529805.225660(a)o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>, >> yamunamyint(a)yahoo.com says... >> > >[..] > >> >> I think it is good for the intermingling of races and cultures >> so that one day unity and peace will come... > >I did too for the same purpose but I have learned to realize that human >will find other reasons to be prejudiced about even if we all are the >same ethnically and culturally. so though I have no objection to mixing >races, I think we need to do more to have *happier* societies. > >[..] > Happiness is a state of mind. I think people appreciate more of - physical comforts, security, peacefulness (as in quietness) - and freedom of choice, to be 'happy'. The riots in France at the moment, is supposedly due to one sector of the population being at a disadvantage - in being able to work, hence to have the money to do what they would like to do. But with western society having moved to better efficiency, has led to more automation in manufacturing (or to move/create entirely new factories to lower waged countries) - has of course led to a shortage of jobs available. The problem in France being that it had accepted new immigrants over a long period of time - and did not integrate them into society. Harvey
From: Anon-e-Mouse on 10 Nov 2005 18:57
Ollie, I don't know what to say to that. |