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From: Ray Fischer on 1 Apr 2008 15:38 I use a power wheelchair and a Toyota Sienna Minivan. When I drive s;pnr I use a remote to open the ramp; I drive up the ramp and transfer into a swivel driver's seat. I can't use an EZ lock since my wife and I share the driving and I'm unable to lock down the chair myself. If we're only going a short distance on local roads I sit in the wheelchair in the back (with the car seatbelt around me in the wheelchair. Obviously driving with a very heavy loose wheelchair in the car is very unsafe. Does anyone know of any easy way I can lock down the chair when transfering into the driver's seat alone? RF
From: Burgerman on 2 Apr 2008 08:12 "Ray Fischer" <rf31(a)verizon.net> wrote in message news:YawIj.12662$gS1.8134(a)trndny07... >I use a power wheelchair and a Toyota Sienna Minivan. When I drive s;pnr I >use a remote to open the ramp; I drive up the ramp and transfer into a >swivel driver's seat. I can't use an EZ lock since my wife and I share the >driving and I'm unable to lock down the chair myself. If we're only going a >short distance on local roads I sit in the wheelchair in the back (with >the car seatbelt around me in the wheelchair. Obviously driving with a >very heavy loose wheelchair in the car is very unsafe. > > Does anyone know of any easy way I can lock down the chair when > transfering into the driver's seat alone? > > RF > I still dont understand why you cant use an ezlock - they are just drive in and clunk its got you! And a single button to push to release? Unless its in the way on the floor? Otherwise the tie downs and ratchet straps is the only way. I do the same - but then I always drive from my wheelchair and use a ezlock (similar) in the driving position. The drivers seat can be refitted in about 5 mins if needed.
From: Ray Fischer on 7 Apr 2008 18:09 "Burgerman" <burgerman(a)ntlworld.com> wrote in message news:CKKIj.7021$h65.4822(a)newsfe2-gui.ntli.net... > "Ray Fischer" <rf31(a)verizon.net> wrote in message > news:YawIj.12662$gS1.8134(a)trndny07... >>I use a power wheelchair and a Toyota Sienna Minivan. When I drive s;pnr >>I use a remote to open the ramp; I drive up the ramp and transfer into a >>swivel driver's seat. I can't use an EZ lock since my wife and I share the >>driving and I'm unable to lock down the chair myself. If we're only going >>a short distance on local roads I sit in the wheelchair in the back (with >>the car seatbelt around me in the wheelchair. Obviously driving with a >>very heavy loose wheelchair in the car is very unsafe. >> >> Does anyone know of any easy way I can lock down the chair when >> transfering into the driver's seat alone? >> >> RF >> > > > I still dont understand why you cant use an ezlock - they are just drive > in and clunk its got you! And a single button to push to release? Unless > its in the way on the floor? > > Otherwise the tie downs and ratchet straps is the only way. > > I do the same - but then I always drive from my wheelchair and use a > ezlock (similar) in the driving position. > > The drivers seat can be refitted in about 5 mins if needed. I drive my wheelchair up into the back of my ramp equiped minvan and transfer into the drivers seat. As you surmised there would not be room to manuever onto an ezlock with my wheelchair in a position where I can transfer into the driver's seat. The ezlock would also be in the way of me driving the wheeelchair into and out of the van. Likewise it's not possible for me to reach down to use the chains for the recepticals that are built into the car. If my wife is with me we wrap the rear shoulder/seat belts around the wheelchair but I can't do that if I'm alone. Thanks RF
From: Burgerman on 8 Apr 2008 08:51 "Ray Fischer" <rf31(a)verizon.net> wrote in message news:1YwKj.3225$N62.2236(a)trndny07... > > "Burgerman" <burgerman(a)ntlworld.com> wrote in message > news:CKKIj.7021$h65.4822(a)newsfe2-gui.ntli.net... >> "Ray Fischer" <rf31(a)verizon.net> wrote in message >> news:YawIj.12662$gS1.8134(a)trndny07... >>>I use a power wheelchair and a Toyota Sienna Minivan. When I drive s;pnr >>>I use a remote to open the ramp; I drive up the ramp and transfer into a >>>swivel driver's seat. I can't use an EZ lock since my wife and I share >>>the driving and I'm unable to lock down the chair myself. If we're only >>>going a short distance on local roads I sit in the wheelchair in the >>>back (with the car seatbelt around me in the wheelchair. Obviously >>>driving with a very heavy loose wheelchair in the car is very unsafe. >>> >>> Does anyone know of any easy way I can lock down the chair when >>> transfering into the driver's seat alone? >>> >>> RF >>> >> >> >> I still dont understand why you cant use an ezlock - they are just drive >> in and clunk its got you! And a single button to push to release? Unless >> its in the way on the floor? >> >> Otherwise the tie downs and ratchet straps is the only way. >> >> I do the same - but then I always drive from my wheelchair and use a >> ezlock (similar) in the driving position. >> >> The drivers seat can be refitted in about 5 mins if needed. > > > > I drive my wheelchair up into the back of my ramp equiped minvan and > transfer into the drivers seat. This is where the misunderstanding is coming from. You didnt say the ramp was at the rear so I presumed that like the majority of honda, toyota, and chrysler lowered floor rampvans the ramp was in the side door like mine is http://www.wheelchairdriver.com/images-chrysler-dodge/chrysler-minivan-rollx-medium.jpg In which case you would just reverse in, straight into a electric tie down with the chair facing sideways, towards the ramp. Then presumably you transfer sideways to a rotating seat as most people do? (again you didnt say) so you would have been in the correct place to transfer. If you wanted to be seated in your powerchair then it wouldnt be as safe though since you would be facing sideways. >As you surmised there would not be room to manuever onto an ezlock with my >wheelchair in a position where I can transfer into the driver's seat. The >ezlock would also be in the way of me driving the wheeelchair into and out >of the van. Maybe a side ramp is a better solution for you then? A vehicle swap needed! Likewise it's not > possible for me to reach down to use the chains for the recepticals that > are built into the car. Even with a "grabber"? Then you are buggered. The best solution will be a side entry van at great expence maybe. If my wife is with me we wrap the rear shoulder/seat > belts around the wheelchair but I can't do that if I'm alone. > > Thanks > RF > > >
From: Ray Fischer on 21 Apr 2008 15:53
Thanks. Mine is a Toyota Sienna. It's a side ramp, the same configuration as yours'. The difference is that I come in forward and back out later to exit down the ramp. I'll try it the way you suggest and see if I can then be in a postion to slide over into the driver's seat. I also don't understand how to transfer over to the driver's seat with my wheelchair facing toward the passenger side but I'll try and see if can manage that. RF "Burgerman" <burgerman(a)ntlworld.com> wrote in message news:xTJKj.56987$jH5.21235(a)newsfe3-win.ntli.net... > "Ray Fischer" <rf31(a)verizon.net> wrote in message > news:1YwKj.3225$N62.2236(a)trndny07... >> >> "Burgerman" <burgerman(a)ntlworld.com> wrote in message >> news:CKKIj.7021$h65.4822(a)newsfe2-gui.ntli.net... >>> "Ray Fischer" <rf31(a)verizon.net> wrote in message >>> news:YawIj.12662$gS1.8134(a)trndny07... >>>>I use a power wheelchair and a Toyota Sienna Minivan. When I drive >>>>s;pnr I use a remote to open the ramp; I drive up the ramp and transfer >>>>into a swivel driver's seat. I can't use an EZ lock since my wife and I >>>>share the driving and I'm unable to lock down the chair myself. If we're >>>>only going a short distance on local roads I sit in the wheelchair in >>>>the back (with the car seatbelt around me in the wheelchair. Obviously >>>>driving with a very heavy loose wheelchair in the car is very unsafe. >>>> >>>> Does anyone know of any easy way I can lock down the chair when >>>> transfering into the driver's seat alone? >>>> >>>> RF >>>> >>> >>> >>> I still dont understand why you cant use an ezlock - they are just drive >>> in and clunk its got you! And a single button to push to release? Unless >>> its in the way on the floor? >>> >>> Otherwise the tie downs and ratchet straps is the only way. >>> >>> I do the same - but then I always drive from my wheelchair and use a >>> ezlock (similar) in the driving position. >>> >>> The drivers seat can be refitted in about 5 mins if needed. >> >> >> >> I drive my wheelchair up into the back of my ramp equiped minvan and >> transfer into the drivers seat. > > > This is where the misunderstanding is coming from. You didnt say the ramp > was at the rear so I presumed that like the majority of honda, toyota, and > chrysler lowered floor rampvans the ramp was in the side door like mine is > http://www.wheelchairdriver.com/images-chrysler-dodge/chrysler-minivan-rollx-medium.jpg > > In which case you would just reverse in, straight into a electric tie down > with the chair facing sideways, towards the ramp. Then presumably you > transfer sideways to a rotating seat as most people do? (again you didnt > say) so you would have been in the correct place to transfer. If you > wanted to be seated in your powerchair then it wouldnt be as safe though > since you would be facing sideways. > >>As you surmised there would not be room to manuever onto an ezlock with my >>wheelchair in a position where I can transfer into the driver's seat. The >>ezlock would also be in the way of me driving the wheeelchair into and out >>of the van. > > Maybe a side ramp is a better solution for you then? A vehicle swap > needed! > > > Likewise it's not >> possible for me to reach down to use the chains for the recepticals that >> are built into the car. > > Even with a "grabber"? Then you are buggered. The best solution will be a > side entry van at great expence maybe. > > > If my wife is with me we wrap the rear shoulder/seat >> belts around the wheelchair but I can't do that if I'm alone. >> >> Thanks >> RF >> >> >> > > > |