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From: Linda Fasciano on 28 Mar 2005 21:56
Hi, I'm new here too.

I have had the Immuno 1 Bloodprint test for allergies and it is not 100%
reliable. I was told that I did not react to wheat or dairy. Later
found out that if the allergen is not in your system it may not show up
on a blood test. I haven't had wheat for 7 years and I haven't had
dairy since 1980. Lactose intollerance runs in my family.

However I did test +2 (1-4 scale) for Baker's yeast and +4 for Brewer's
yeast (alcohol), though I haven't had a drink in about 4 years. But I
am sensitive to alcohol that is in soap and shampoo. Cetyl alcohol on
the skin. The list of foods I was told to avoid for a yeast allergy
include:

Beer and wine, whisky, brandy (probably all alcohol), won't list them.
Enriched flour, buttermilk, catsup, cereals, fruit juices, horseradish,
malted milk, mayonnaise, mince pie, mushrooms, olives, pickles,
pretzels, root beer, salad dressings, sauerkraut, soy sauce, tomato
sauce, vinegar, vitamins, barbecue sauce, bleu cheese, brie and other
exotic cheeses.

There is also some info about immediate or delayed reactions here:
http://www.betterhealthusa.com/public/170.cfm

If your problem began with Amoxicillin, mine began with Ketaconazole,
you might want to get a stool assay. This is the newest chapter in my
journey. Tested positive for Klebsiella pneumonia (dysbiosis) yet there
was 0 yeast in my gut. I was told this may help solve some of my
problems after treatment, I am waiting to see, so far the cure seems
worse than the disease--flu like symptoms.

I weigh 95 pounds and eat enough to keep a 200 pound person going
calorie wise, but on a limited diet that avoids all restaurants. I know
how confusing it is to figurre this all out in the beginning and I wish
you luck in finding your balance.

Linda

From: dimaria96 on 29 Mar 2005 14:46

Linda,
After reading up on this yeast business yesterday my husband and I
feel like the peices finally fit..could never figure out why orange
juice was bothering me..It was the citric acid booting the yeast
difficulties...found out there is yeast in ice creams and other
dairy...
I checked out the website the yeast connection...Have you tried that
diet to rid yourself of this..It says to stay away from sugars because
they help yeast to breed..Well, here it is day one of no sugar and it's
killing me! I've never been on any kind of diet or restrictive eating
plan and this is torture!! I always snack in the afternoon! (MIND YOU
THE KIDS EASTER BASKETS right under my nose!) Do you just limit the
yeast containing foods or do you limit sugar too.
thanks everyone for the advice..
AMY

From: Linda Fasciano on 29 Mar 2005 20:22
Hi Amy,
Glad to be of help, however minor. I do not entirely limit sugar in my
diet. However there is only one sugar on the market that I have found
which does not cause allergy symptoms. It is brown sugar which is put
out by Market Basket--a local store but they are in several states. I
am allergic to other sugars even brown sugar such as Domino. Some
sugars contain corn starch and I have an allergy to grains. I go
through about 2 pounds a week between baking tofu cakes, tofu cheesecake
and fudge. And while I have an allergy to yeast I do not have an
overgrowth of yeast in my system. It is just something that triggers an
allergic response. Still it may be the newly discovered Klebsiella.
Anyway you may not have to avoid sugar. One way to test it is to stay
away from it for a few days or a week and then try adding it in a small
amount to your diet. I have not tried every sugar on the market but
once I found this one I stuck with it. If I think of somethin else I
let you know. Molasses was ok too but I don't care for the taste.

Linda

From: Linda Fasciano on 29 Mar 2005 20:47
Hi Amy,

At the risk of having you think I'm totally off my rocker I'm sending
this info along as it has helped me (believe it or not). I have gone
through about 15 NAET sessions as in this site below and they did not
help me. However the strength test helped me tremendously. Read the
section: HOW TO MUSCLE TEST. Try it out. It costs nothing and it might
work for you as it has for me. I have used it to discover new allergies
when I hadn't a clue what was bothering me and had to go over my last
few days of exposures to discover that maybe my shampoo is New and
Improved--but bad news for me. I got sick. I also highly recommend a
diary for about a month or so which includes the foods and how you felt
that day, the day after that and what symptoms you experienced. Then at
the end of a month try to collect the data in a way that might form a
pattern. My worst day after exposure is day 5. The symptoms are
totally gone by day 13. But that is my system. Hope this helps to give
you something to keep your mind occupied. Meanwhile you should consider
seeing a doctor again. You could be allergic to wheat permanently or
temporarily if it is dysbiosis.

http://www.healthplusweb.com/alt_directory/naet.html

From: Jack Campin - bogus address on 30 Mar 2005 07:08
> After reading up on this yeast business yesterday my husband and I
> feel like the peices finally fit..could never figure out why orange
> juice was bothering me..It was the citric acid booting the yeast
> difficulties...found out there is yeast in ice creams and other
> dairy...
> I checked out the website the yeast connection...Have you tried
> that diet to rid yourself of this..It says to stay away from
> sugars because they help yeast to breed.

Sometimes. There seem to be other kinds of gut dysbiosis where
protein is the limiting factor. Yeast problems are much more
variable than simple-minded books and websites would have you think.


> Well, here it is day one of no sugar and it's killing me! I've
> never been on any kind of diet or restrictive eating plan and
> this is torture!!

Withdrawal symptoms are a VERY good indication that you've identified
a problem food. Stick with it. It should get more bearable after a
week and you'll notice an improvement in your symptoms around then too.


> Do you just limit the yeast containing foods or do you limit sugar
> too.

Helps to also use probiotics and (yeast-free!) vitamin/mineral
supplements.


> (MIND YOU THE KIDS EASTER BASKETS right under my nose!)

Food-related festivities are often a hard time to handle diet
restrictions. You've got started at one of the toughest times
in the calendar. Well done.

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