What are the ethics regarding Cow Milk?
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From: Blueshark on 21 Sep 2006 12:03 Vegetarians drink cow milk, yet dairy cows are put through an emmense amount of pain and suffering in their lifetime. Why is this suffering of less importance than say, the capture of a fish?
From: shrubkiller on 21 Sep 2006 13:49 Blueshark wrote: > Vegetarians drink cow milk, yet dairy cows are put through an emmense > amount of pain and suffering in their lifetime. > > Why is this suffering of less importance than say, the capture of a > fish? Vegetarians who indulge in fish and dairy are only fooling themselves.
From: Blueshark on 21 Sep 2006 14:40 Fool me one, you can't fool me twice...shame on you. Definition of Vegetarian from Wikipedia: Today, Indian vegetarians, primarily Lacto-ovo vegetarians, are estimated to make up more than 70% of the world's vegetarians. .... A lacto-ovo vegetarian (also known as ovo-lacto vegetarian, but sometimes incorrectly referred to as octo-lacto vegetarian, as "octo" means eight) is a vegetarian who consumes dairy products (i.e. milk and its derivatives, like cheese, butter, or yogurt) and eggs. shrubkiller wrote: > Blueshark wrote: > > Vegetarians drink cow milk, yet dairy cows are put through an emmense > > amount of pain and suffering in their lifetime. > > > > Why is this suffering of less importance than say, the capture of a > > fish? > > > Vegetarians who indulge in fish and dairy are only fooling themselves.
From: dh on 21 Sep 2006 15:33 On 21 Sep 2006 09:03:25 -0700, "Blueshark" <duncan10(a)gmail.com> wrote: >Vegetarians drink cow milk, yet dairy cows are put through an emmense >amount of pain and suffering in their lifetime. Like what? >Why is this suffering of less importance than say, the capture of a >fish? ? From the life and death of a thousand pound grass raised steer and whatever he happens to kill during his life, people get over 500 pounds of human consumable meat...that's well over 500 servings of meat. From a grass raised dairy cow people get thousands of dairy servings. Due to the influence of farm machinery, and *icides, and in the case of rice the flooding and draining of fields, one serving of soy or rice based product is likely to involve more animal deaths than hundreds of servings derived from grass raised animals. Grass raised animal products contribute to fewer wildlife deaths, better wildlife habitat, and better lives for livestock than soy or rice products. ? Here we see plowing: http://tinyurl.com/8fmxe and here harrowing: http://tinyurl.com/zqr2v both of which kill animals by crushing, mutilation, suffocation, and exposing them to predators. We can see that planting kills in similar ways: http://tinyurl.com/k6sku and death from herbicides and pesticides needs to be kept in mind: http://tinyurl.com/ew2j5 Harvesting kills of course by crushing and mutilation, and it also removes the surviving animals' food, and it exposes them to predators: http://tinyurl.com/otp5l In the case of rice there's additional killing as well caused by flooding: http://tinyurl.com/qhqx3 and later by draining and destroying the environment which developed as the result of the flooding: http://tinyurl.com/rc9m3 Cattle eating grass rarely if ever cause anywhere near as much suffering and death. ? http://tinyurl.com/q7whm
From: Dutch on 21 Sep 2006 17:09
"Blueshark" <duncan10(a)gmail.com> wrote > Vegetarians drink cow milk, yet dairy cows are put through an emmense > amount of pain and suffering in their lifetime. > > Why is this suffering of less importance than say, the capture of a > fish? The answer to all questions of this type are the same, "ethical vegetarians" are mostly hypocrites. |