From: dr_jeff on
Jan Drew wrote:
> On Feb 25, 6:41�am, dr_jeff <u...(a)msu.edu> wrote:
>> Jan Drew wrote:
>>> Keep wondering. �You might want to stop lying. �I only post there are
>>> no studies proving vaccination to be safe, �You see I don't fall for
>>> the lies of the CDC, FDA, or AMA, as they are *organized medicine*
>>> And the fraud of all four including Offit, plus their vested interest,
>> Every single vaccine that is licensed for use in children is tested in
>> clinical trials.
>
> NOT doc you lie.

Tell me, then, what vaccine that is licensed for use in children is not
tested in clinical trials?

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From: Mark Probert on
On Feb 26, 12:15 am, Mike <M...(a)localhost.localdomain> wrote:
> Mark Probert wrote:
> > On Feb 25, 12:46 am, Mike <M...(a)localhost.localdomain> wrote:
> >> Mark Probert wrote:
> >>> On Feb 24, 12:18 am, Mike <M...(a)localhost.localdomain> wrote:
> >>>> Mark Probert wrote:
> >>>>> In this post:
> >>>>> ------Begin quote------
> >>>>> Message from discussion Why Vaccines May Be Bad
> >>>>> View parsed - Show only message text
> >>>>> Path: g2news2.google.com!postnews.google.com!
> >>>>> v25g2000yqk.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail
> >>>>> From: Jan Drew <jdrew63...(a)aol.com>
> >>>>> Newsgroups:
> >>>>> sci.med,sci.med.nursing,sci.med.pharmacy,misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.­ health
> >>>>> Subject: Re: Why Vaccines May Be Bad
> >>>>> Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 13:47:24 -0800 (PST)
> >>>>> Organization:http://groups.google.com
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> >>>>> On Feb 21, 1:17=EF=BF=BDpm, dr_jeff <u...(a)msu.edu> wrote:
> >>>>>  > Enough said.
> >>>>> More than enough since you are not a doctor, but continue to lie.
> >>>>> For a real M.D.  See:
> >>>>>http://www.millerfamilymedicine.com/
> >>>>>  -------End Quote_____
> >>>>> Jan endorses Dr. Miller.
> >>>>> I visited his website and can see that he is a hard working member of
> >>>>> the medical profession.
> >>>>> I also found links which resulted in these:
> >>>>> "With proper hygiene and proper precautions, in addition to numerous
> >>>>> vaccines and rapidly advancing medical technology, people are better
> >>>>> equipped than ever to avoid getting sick."
> >>>>> and
> >>>>>http://www.ecommunity.com/health/index.aspx?pageid=P02523
> >>>> <irrelevant stuff snipped>
> >>>> Mark, you are an idiot. You followed a link athttp://www.millerfamilymedicine.com/, found more links at
> >>>> the linked site and concluded that Dr.Miller endorsed whatever
> >>>> is there. He may, or he may not, there is no evidence.
> >>> Explain why he would link to information that he does not endorse. If
> >>> you had a website, would you link to the CDC? Of course you wouldn't.
> >> I do not have a website but I do not see a reason why not link
> >> to CDC for reference for policy information, vaccination schedules etc..
>
> > Of course he would link to fact based websites like that.
>
> >> Web sites have all kinds of links, for example, buzzflash.com
> >> has a link to nypost.com, so what?
>
> > Not quite the same thing, but, you would not understand the
> > explanation.
>
> >>>> He does not "recommend immunizations". He has a generic link to a web
> >>>> site that has a different page (not referred by him) that recommends
> >>>> immunizations.
> >>> See above, logic challenged one.
> >> See above and below, logic challenged one.
>
> > Thanks, you logic is non-existent.
>
> >>>> And why does he have this link? Given these links and that his web site
> >>>> and ecommunity.com have the same IP address 204.108.61.25 I would
> >>>> suggest there is a relationship. Most likely, he is a member of
> >>>> ecommunity.com (there is membership there), they may host his web site
> >>>> in exchange for links, this is common practice.
> >>> If he disagreed with the content, he could have separate hosting at
> >>> another provider. If he is doing it to "save money" then you are
> >>> calling him unethical. I do not see that.
> >> Here is a better example - just for retards like you.
>
> >> David Gorski aka Orac has a blog athttp://scienceblogs.com/insolence/.
> >> On the top of the page there are links. If you follow the link
> >> "Medicine" you will get tohttp://scienceblogs.com/channel/medicine/?utm_source=globalChannel&ut...
>
> > I see, so you like to play the "outing canard". That is something that
> > dirtbags do.
>
> What do you mean "outing"?

He posts under Orac. Why do you use his real name?

Only scum like Jan Drew, JB Handley and the filthy ilk at Age Of
Autism post real names.

How about YOU posting your full contact information?

I bet you won't as you aeew an intellectual and regular coward.



From: Peter Bowditch on
Jan Drew <jdrew63929(a)aol.com> wrote:

>Dr. James R. Shannon, former director of the National institute of
>health declared, "the only safe vaccine is one that is never used."

It never goes away, does it?

http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles/history/2007/11november.htm#24lies

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From: Peter Bowditch on
Jan Drew <jdrew63929(a)aol.com> wrote:

>Dr. James R. Shannon, former director of the National institute of
>health declared, "the only safe vaccine is one that is never used."

That's at least the third time in as many days that you have repeated
this lie, Jan. Why?

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From: Nomen Nescio on
Peter Bowditch <myfirstname(a)ratbags.com> wrote:
> Jan Drew <jdrew63929(a)aol.com> wrote:
>
>> Dr. James R. Shannon, former director of the National
>> Institute of Health declared, "the only safe vaccine
>> is one that is never used."
>
> That's at least the third time in as many days that you
> have repeated this lie, Jan. Why?

Because she's a liar who can't handle the truth (in spite
of her pastor's admonishment that lying is a sin)??