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From: Steve on 16 Feb 2007 18:21 Some other good quotes from the article ( the pictures are worth visiting the link for ): Quote: "The modified stomach naturally expands a bit over time, most substantially in patients with a penchant for overeating, so weight loss can be hard to maintain in some cases." Quote: "Scant research has been done on the psychological impacts of bariatric surgery, and what does exist isn't particularly conclusive. One study, published last March in the journal Obesity Surgery, surveyed people when they applied for a weight-loss procedure. Two- thirds of them wound up having the surgery. When surveyed four and a half years later, patients in both groups had lost weight, but there was no reported difference between them in terms of psychological well- being - although the bariatric patients lost far more weight on average, both groups showed fewer problems. Nor was there was any correlation between weight loss in bariatric patients and their ultimate levels of anxiety, depression, binge eating, and psychosocial stress."
From: Steve on 16 Feb 2007 18:28 I am wondering. Among the criticisms of this surgery are large amounts of loose skin to deal with. However, doesn't everyone who loses a large amount of weight have to deal with that?
From: Chris Braun on 16 Feb 2007 18:49 On 16 Feb 2007 15:28:47 -0800, "Steve" <veganstirfry(a)gmail.com> wrote: >I am wondering. Among the criticisms of this surgery are large >amounts of loose skin to deal with. However, doesn't everyone who >loses a large amount of weight have to deal with that? Yes, but I think there's a correlation between speed of loss and amount of loose skin one is left with. Also, I think weight training and other exercise can make a difference. I'm sure there are also genetic factors that influence skin elasticity. I'm almost 59 years old and lost half my bodyweight, and I have relatively little loose skin -- not enough to be a problem in any way, and not enough to even think of a surgical correction. I don't have any sort of apron (saggy abdomen) or anything like that -- do have a bit of a saggy butt and a little flab here and there, but nothing that stands out amongst 60ish women anyway :-). I lost at about 5-6 lbs/month and did significant lifting & cardio throughout. Chris 262/130s/130s started dieting July 2002, maintaining since June 2004
From: Caleb on 16 Feb 2007 22:25 On Feb 16, 3:49 pm, Chris Braun <b...(a)mill-creek-systems.com> wrote: > On 16 Feb 2007 15:28:47 -0800, "Steve" <veganstir...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > >I am wondering. Among the criticisms of this surgery are large > >amounts of loose skin to deal with. However, doesn't everyone who > >loses a large amount of weight have to deal with that? > > Yes, but I think there's a correlation between speed of loss and > amount of loose skin one is left with. Also, I think weight training > and other exercise can make a difference. I'm sure there are also > genetic factors that influence skin elasticity. I'm almost 59 years > old and lost half my bodyweight, and I have relatively little loose > skin -- not enough to be a problem in any way, and not enough to even > think of a surgical correction. I don't have any sort of apron (saggy > abdomen) or anything like that -- do have a bit of a saggy butt and a > little flab here and there, but nothing that stands out amongst 60ish > women anyway :-). I lost at about 5-6 lbs/month and did significant > lifting & cardio throughout. > > Chris > 262/130s/130s > started dieting July 2002, maintaining since June 2004 Chris -- I'm sure you looked a heck of a lot better than I did three years ago when I was under 200! Interesting! Does a slower weight and exercise make less loose skin? Any research on this? Kind of makes sense both ways... Yours, Caleb
From: Chris Braun on 17 Feb 2007 07:53
On 16 Feb 2007 19:25:50 -0800, "Caleb" <calebb(a)teleport.com> wrote: >On Feb 16, 3:49 pm, Chris Braun <b...(a)mill-creek-systems.com> wrote: >> On 16 Feb 2007 15:28:47 -0800, "Steve" <veganstir...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >I am wondering. Among the criticisms of this surgery are large >> >amounts of loose skin to deal with. However, doesn't everyone who >> >loses a large amount of weight have to deal with that? >> >> Yes, but I think there's a correlation between speed of loss and >> amount of loose skin one is left with. Also, I think weight training >> and other exercise can make a difference. I'm sure there are also >> genetic factors that influence skin elasticity. I'm almost 59 years >> old and lost half my bodyweight, and I have relatively little loose >> skin -- not enough to be a problem in any way, and not enough to even >> think of a surgical correction. I don't have any sort of apron (saggy >> abdomen) or anything like that -- do have a bit of a saggy butt and a >> little flab here and there, but nothing that stands out amongst 60ish >> women anyway :-). I lost at about 5-6 lbs/month and did significant >> lifting & cardio throughout. >> >> Chris >> 262/130s/130s >> started dieting July 2002, maintaining since June 2004 > >Chris -- > >I'm sure you looked a heck of a lot better than I did three years ago >when I was under 200! > >Interesting! Does a slower weight and exercise make less loose skin? >Any research on this? Kind of makes sense both ways... > >Yours, > >Caleb I don't recall offhand seeing any research -- though one can find all sorts of opinions about this on the internet. The trainers at my gym say that this is what they have observed with their clients, but that's hardly definitive. Nor is my own experience, which is of course just a sample of one that doesn't prove anything. (This is why I said "I think" above :-).) Chris 262/130s/130s started dieting July 2002, maintaining since June 2004 |