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From: Jan Drew on 8 Apr 2008 01:54

"MothWrangler" <mothwrangler(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Erin wrote:
>>
>> Twittering One wrote:
>>
>>>If admitted to a psych ward, the higher your chances later for killing
>>>yourself, relative to non-admits, say studies.
>>
>>
>> Not that i have great doubts, but a reference would be nice
>> on such a controversial statement. I think small neighbourhood
>> clinics
>> would be so much better. The PQ gov. in Canada set them
>> up in its wisdom, but they are out-clinics. Maybe the US has
>> something similar? HMOs?
>>
>> Erin
>
> If the studies didn't control for severity of illness, the claimed results
> wouldn't be a surprise.

"We know that hospitals are dangerous places if you don't need to be there,"
Dr. Eliot Fisher, who also led the study, said.
Ask Virginia, she knows.
>
> In the US, only the most severely mentally ill individuals tend to be
> hospitalized in a psych ward. In many cases, the individuals are admitted
> because they are a danger to themselves or others.

Keywords: In some cases..
>
> The less severely ill, or persons who aren't a danger to themselves or
> others, usually are treated on a out-patient basis.

In some cases.
>
> Given that the most ill and most dangerous are the patients hospitalized,
> it wouldn't be surprising if, after release, they were more likely to
> commit suicide.
>
> Nancy

An excellent example of this so-called support group.

WE KNOW what happened to Virginia, yet very FEW here helped.
They just bad mouthed. Like Nancy Knisley.



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