"We know that hospitals are dangerous places if you don't need to be there," Dr. Eliot Fisher, who also led the study, said.
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From: Erin on 10 Apr 2008 19:59 Honorable Professeur Von TwoSteps OA wrote: > From : Erin <squiggle(a)sympatico.ca> > Message-ID : <2d35a6f2-3cf9-4fe3-a31f-9d192f5f8d3c(a)l42g2000hsc.googlegroups.com> > > > > > >But what if seriously ill patients do not take their medication > > > What if you American numskulls stop liberally handing out bulk psychotropic > prescription to all and sundry ? Maybe there wouldn't be so many seriously > insane patients that murder and maim in some stupefied narcotised haze > > > Please raise *your* hand any American that has never been to > a shrink or taken mind.altering drugs > > > Prescribed distorted perception is the national sport on Planet.America > > > > -- > HPVTS.OA.Tinfoil Sombrero > God.Bless AUK for my award The overuse of psychiatric meds is another issue. My point is that the use of these meds, presumably in cases where they validly needed, must be used with caution and knowledge. Misuse or a casual treatment leads to many crises and even crimes. Erin (Lithium Poster Girl from the Great White North)
From: Frank on 10 Apr 2008 22:03 "Erin" <squiggle(a)sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:50c835a6-52fc-420c-83cb-9ebaf56e016e(a)u3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com... > > > Frank wrote: >> "Erin" <squiggle(a)sympatico.ca> wrote in message >> news:1f3dd195-0bba-4c40-bbc9-543f9f1d6d83(a)8g2000hse.googlegroups.com... >> > >> > >> > marcia wrote: >> >> On Apr 8, 7:20 am, Erin <squig...(a)sympatico.ca> wrote: >> >> > Jan Drew wrote: >> >> > > "LostBoyinNC" >> >> > >> >> > Advocates of deinstitutionalization see the world >> >> > through rose-coloured glasses; completely blind to >> >> > the cruelty, humiliation and outcasting that society >> >> > throws on not just the mentally ill, but anyone who >> >> > does not fit in to their clique. That's why a lot of >> >> > mentally ill people who have no support end up on >> >> > the streets, in prostitution, abuse, or somehow taken advantage >> >> > of. For seriously ill people who need help, the solution is to >> >> > improve >> >> > hospitals, not to kick people out on the street. >> >> > >> >> > "Freedom's just another word, for nothing left to lose.." >> >> > >> >> >> >> > - >> >> > Janice Joplin >> >> >> >> You forgot to mention, "or in jail"--one of the more popular >> >> dumping >> >> grounds for deinstitutionalized mentally ill. >> > >> > True, in the States it's scandalous -- and what a horrible place >> > for the mentally ill. The shortage of beds and resources does >> > not allow for the long-term stay that used to be the case pre-50s >> > anyway. That goes for all hospitals now--- they would rather you >> > were taken care of outside somehow. >> > >> > Erin >> >> How quickly the tune changes. At one point people were getting lost >> in >> the system and could not get out. Some were retained against their >> will. >> Some never got their day in court. >> >> Before you all lament too much consider the other side of the coin >> and >> use that to make value judgments regarding the future. >> >> There is a huge amount of the mentally ill on the various forms of >> the >> internet. > > > What do you mean Frank? In which part are you interested?
From: Erin on 11 Apr 2008 20:41
Frank wrote: > "Erin" <squiggle(a)sympatico.ca> wrote in message > news:50c835a6-52fc-420c-83cb-9ebaf56e016e(a)u3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com... > > > > > > Frank wrote: > >> "Erin" <squiggle(a)sympatico.ca> wrote in message > >> news:1f3dd195-0bba-4c40-bbc9-543f9f1d6d83(a)8g2000hse.googlegroups.com... > >> > > >> > > >> > marcia wrote: > >> >> On Apr 8, 7:20 am, Erin <squig...(a)sympatico.ca> wrote: > >> >> > Jan Drew wrote: > >> >> > > "LostBoyinNC" > >> >> > > >> >> > Advocates of deinstitutionalization see the world > >> >> > through rose-coloured glasses; completely blind to > >> >> > the cruelty, humiliation and outcasting that society > >> >> > throws on not just the mentally ill, but anyone who > >> >> > does not fit in to their clique. That's why a lot of > >> >> > mentally ill people who have no support end up on > >> >> > the streets, in prostitution, abuse, or somehow taken advantage > >> >> > of. For seriously ill people who need help, the solution is to > >> >> > improve > >> >> > hospitals, not to kick people out on the street. > >> >> > > >> >> > "Freedom's just another word, for nothing left to lose.." > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > - > >> >> > Janice Joplin > >> >> > >> >> You forgot to mention, "or in jail"--one of the more popular > >> >> dumping > >> >> grounds for deinstitutionalized mentally ill. > >> > > >> > True, in the States it's scandalous -- and what a horrible place > >> > for the mentally ill. The shortage of beds and resources does > >> > not allow for the long-term stay that used to be the case pre-50s > >> > anyway. That goes for all hospitals now--- they would rather you > >> > were taken care of outside somehow. > >> > > >> > Erin > >> > >> How quickly the tune changes. At one point people were getting lost > >> in > >> the system and could not get out. Some were retained against their > >> will. > >> Some never got their day in court. > >> > >> Before you all lament too much consider the other side of the coin > >> and > >> use that to make value judgments regarding the future. > >> > >> There is a huge amount of the mentally ill on the various forms of > >> the > >> internet. > > > > > > What do you mean Frank? > > In which part are you interested? ? which part of what? Erin |