"We know that hospitals are dangerous places if you don't need to be there," Dr. Eliot Fisher, who also led the study, said.
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From: Erin on 7 Apr 2008 20:18 Linda wrote: > On Apr 7, 11:58�am, Twittering One <mournenwo...(a)aol.com> wrote: > > If admitted to a psych ward, the higher your chances later for killing > > yourself, relative to non-admits, say studies. > > That goes without saying. > > SEE The Flies by Jean Paul Sartre > http://www.sparknotes.com/drama/theflies/section6.rhtml > > > "freedom specifically requires that the being- for-itself not be > either a being-for-others or a being-in-itself. > > A being-for- others occurs when human beings accept morals thrust onto > them by others. > > A being-in-itself occurs when human beings do not separate themselves > from objects of nature." > > In many cases, the motive for incarcerating an individual in a psych > ward is a sinister one: > > To wit: to exact retribution against them for living an existence > wherein their being is for themselves, rather then, an existence > where their beings-for-others or being-in-itself. > > Transforming individuals from individuals whose existence is > charactererized by their being for themself TO individuals whose > existence is that of being-in-itself or being-for-others IS the > ultimage goal of the retribution exacted against individuals whose > exist as beings for themselves via incarceration in psych wards > > Whenever such individuals lack the financial wherewithal to emigrate > to other countries and/or the emotional wherewithal to survive stark > reality living off the land/streets, such individuals will OFF > themselves rather then live an existence wherein they're liberty is > dependant upon their acquiesing to the inherently evil others who > employ psychiatric coercion to transform anyone who won't exist as > beings for inherently evil others to being for inherently evil others. I meant something a little more current. Sartre! Sheesh! Some people who are admitted to psych hospitals or so psychotic that they can't even pronounce liberty.... though i grant you once medicated and stabilized everyone prefers their individual freedom -- that's human nature. Erin
From: LostBoyinNC on 7 Apr 2008 22:53 On Apr 7, 2:56 pm, Linda <Indomitab...(a)netzero.com> wrote: > "We know that hospitals are dangerous places if you don't need to be > there.." > ----Dr. Eliot Fisher > > Huge Variations in Medicare Spending among Hospitals, Study Finds > By Anna Boyd > 13:46, April 7th 2008 > > New research on Medicare spending shows unexplained variations in the > amount, intensity and cost of care provided to Medicare patients at > the nation's top academic medical centers in their last two years of > life. > > {....} > > http://www.efluxmedia.com/news_Huge_Variations_in_Medicare_Spending_a... Yeah Linda, but notice they are talking about people who DO NOT need to be in hospital. That category does not include yourself. You could probably benefit from a nice, long stay in a good psychiatric facility. Eric AKA LostBoyinNC
From: Linda on 8 Apr 2008 01:35 On Apr 7, 5:18 pm, Erin <squig...(a)sympatico.ca> wrote: > Linda wrote: > > On Apr 7, 11:58�am, Twittering One <mournenwo...(a)aol.com> wrote: > > > If admitted to a psych ward, the higher your chances later for killing > > > yourself, relative to non-admits, say studies. > > > That goes without saying. > > > SEE The Flies by Jean Paul Sartre > >http://www.sparknotes.com/drama/theflies/section6.rhtml > > > "freedom specifically requires that the being- for-itself not be > > either a being-for-others or a being-in-itself. > > > A being-for- others occurs when human beings accept morals thrust onto > > them by others. > > > A being-in-itself occurs when human beings do not separate themselves > > from objects of nature." > > > In many cases,  the motive for incarcerating an individual in a psych > > ward is a sinister one: > > > To wit: to exact retribution against them for living an existence > > wherein their being is for themselves,  rather then,  an existence > > where their beings-for-others or being-in-itself. > > > Transforming individuals from individuals whose existence is > > charactererized by their being for themself TO individuals whose > > existence is that of being-in-itself or being-for-others IS the > > ultimage goal of the retribution exacted against individuals whose > > exist as beings for themselves via incarceration in psych wards > > > Whenever such individuals lack the financial wherewithal to emigrate > > to other countries and/or the emotional wherewithal to survive stark > > reality living off the land/streets,  such individuals will OFF > > themselves rather then live an existence wherein they're liberty is > > dependant upon their acquiesing to the inherently evil others who > > employ psychiatric coercion to transform anyone who won't exist as > > beings for inherently evil others to being for inherently evil others. > > I meant something a little more current. 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From: Jan Drew on 8 Apr 2008 01:58 "Linda" <Indomitable2(a)netzero.com> wrote in message news:3a2a0c84-7140-4e7b-b068-2bc0da677a9e(a)n1g2000prb.googlegroups.com... On Apr 7, 11:58 am, Twittering One <mournenwo...(a)aol.com> wrote: > If admitted to a psych ward, the higher your chances later for killing > yourself, relative to non-admits, say studies. That goes without saying. SEE The Flies by Jean Paul Sartre http://www.sparknotes.com/drama/theflies/section6.rhtml "freedom specifically requires that the being- for-itself not be either a being-for-others or a being-in-itself. A being-for- others occurs when human beings accept morals thrust onto them by others. A being-in-itself occurs when human beings do not separate themselves from objects of nature." In many cases, the motive for incarcerating an individual in a psych ward is a sinister one: To wit: to exact retribution against them for living an existence wherein their being is for themselves, rather then, an existence where their beings-for-others or being-in-itself. Transforming individuals from individuals whose existence is charactererized by their being for themself TO individuals whose existence is that of being-in-itself or being-for-others IS the ultimage goal of the retribution exacted against individuals whose exist as beings for themselves via incarceration in psych wards Whenever such individuals lack the financial wherewithal to emigrate to other countries and/or the emotional wherewithal to survive stark reality living off the land/streets, such individuals will OFF themselves rather then live an existence wherein they're liberty is dependant upon their acquiesing to the inherently evil others who employ psychiatric coercion to transform anyone who won't exist as beings for inherently evil others to being for inherently evil others. WELL Said.
From: Jan Drew on 8 Apr 2008 01:59
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