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From: H on 10 Aug 2006 01:44 I think videotaping during social interaction and analysis of something akin to a reality tv show might provide some feedback to help "avoid unwanted notice". Sure, I want to be proud but this then means I need to wear a symbol for the world to see and make a press release so others get what it is someone with a flat affect or mismatched to the situation affect (facial expression) has. I have been told not long ago by a trusted individual that I don't have much emotion on my face fairly recently and this is the first time I've heard such a thing in a long time. Some people say they feel "creeped out" for this very reason. There was a friend of mine in high school named Robert who had similar issues. Looking back, I'm sure I had made more than one autistic acquaintance in my past before even knowing much about it. H
From: Terry Jones on 10 Aug 2006 03:22 On 9 Aug 2006 22:44:26 -0700, "H" <john.gagon(a)gmail.com> wrote: >I think videotaping during social interaction and analysis of something >akin to a reality tv show might provide some feedback to help "avoid >unwanted notice". Sure, I want to be proud but this then means I need >to wear a symbol for the world to see and make a press release so >others get what it is someone with a flat affect or mismatched to the >situation affect (facial expression) has. > >I have been told not long ago by a trusted individual that I don't have >much emotion on my face fairly recently and this is the first time I've >heard such a thing in a long time. Some people say they feel "creeped >out" for this very reason. As I said to another poster who suggested checking yourself in a mirror from time to time - Then what? - How exactly are we supposed to *do* anything about this? For example a number of people have said that when they try to "smile for the camera", the expression comes across as fake (which indeed it is). The only thing I can think of is to investigate how actors do this (but also to remember that even they are only doing it for limited periods at a time). Trouble is the only technique I've heard of is generating the desired mood / emotion intentionally, and letting that produce the appropriate body language - Which of course isn't going to work in this case, since much of our natural body language *isn't* "natural" to an NT. But even that doesn't address the issue of how to *keep* on consciously monitoring yourself and the situation and "acting out" an "appropriate" response for any length of time. (Never mind trying to maintain a coherent conversation while doing so). -- Terry
From: Naughtyautie on 10 Aug 2006 13:19 "Terry Jones" <terryjones(a)beeb.net> wrote in message news:dojld21mq907ofidvngrjgbjh6clgahp2f(a)4ax.com... > On 9 Aug 2006 22:44:26 -0700, "H" <john.gagon(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >>I think videotaping during social interaction and analysis of something >>akin to a reality tv show might provide some feedback to help "avoid >>unwanted notice". Sure, I want to be proud but this then means I need >>to wear a symbol for the world to see and make a press release so >>others get what it is someone with a flat affect or mismatched to the >>situation affect (facial expression) has. >> >>I have been told not long ago by a trusted individual that I don't have >>much emotion on my face fairly recently and this is the first time I've >>heard such a thing in a long time. Some people say they feel "creeped >>out" for this very reason. > > As I said to another poster who suggested checking yourself in a > mirror from time to time - Then what? - How exactly are we supposed to > *do* anything about this? > > For example a number of people have said that when they try to "smile > for the camera", the expression comes across as fake (which indeed it > is). > > The only thing I can think of is to investigate how actors do this > (but also to remember that even they are only doing it for limited > periods at a time). > > Trouble is the only technique I've heard of is generating the desired > mood / emotion intentionally, and letting that produce the appropriate > body language - Which of course isn't going to work in this case, > since much of our natural body language *isn't* "natural" to an NT. > > But even that doesn't address the issue of how to *keep* on > consciously monitoring yourself and the situation and "acting out" an > "appropriate" response for any length of time. (Never mind trying to > maintain a coherent conversation while doing so). > > -- > > Terry > This is what I have been trying to tell people for some time now. It is unrealistic to expect autistics to fake NT, even during something as short as a job interview. Even if you could fake NT during the interview, you would not be able to fake NT for 40 or more hours a week. I don't think I could bear to look at a video of myself trying to interact with another person, any more than I can bear to hear a recording of my own voice. Dave ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =----
From: ripprou on 10 Aug 2006 16:39
Naughtyautie wrote: >It is > unrealistic to expect autistics to fake NT, even during something as short > as a job interview.< Any "fake" exterior you provide will not show your prospective employer who you are and so will only serve to undermine any possible success at the job. If you can't be accepted for who you are then you don't belong in the position. This could really generate a phenomenal amount of animosity between an employer and employee when the guy who has to do the firing wonders what he did wrong at the interview. Empathy can be impossible for the autie but that's maybe required in this scenario.. you have to consider how the interviewer can possibly do his job if the person sitting across from him isn't being given truthful information. And.. unless you intend to pull off this cherade on a full time basis (highly impossible) you're only going to wind up getting fired in the end.. adding another failure to your employment resume. Be confident! You have skills that are useful and your employer will accept your oddities if he/she has half a brain. (Granted.. a lot of them don't but still..) I have to go watch Office Space again. =) |